Right now it’s an open to google sewer where swearing is becoming the norm rather than the exception

I'm one of the biggest offenders as far as profanity goes. I've never been in an environment where there are NSFW rules, so I don't know if f-bombs are considered NSFW. If they are where you work, then I apologize.

That said, I don't use any language in chat that I don't use in the workplace to co workers. Obviously, I keep my "s's" and "f's" to myself when the CIO is floating around, but afaik, my CIO doesn't read the Comms Room :) Swearing just to swear is stupid. I do it from time to time. I'm stupid just like everyone else. Asking people not to swear when it's warranted or in the flow of conversation is a bit much though. We're all adults.

and rallying the pack to pile on the clueless noobs is commonplace. The 'chat pack' is running amok.

As it related to SF noobs in general, I think a lot of that is addressed here and isn't chat-specific: Worse than usenet? Our image to prospective new users. I don't think that chat moderation will help us be gentler to dumb users, we'll see the question whether someone oneboxes it in chat or not.

We certainly don't pile on to chat noobs. There are a lot of newer chat users in the last 6mo or so, including Basil, AdrianK, Bart De Vos, Dan and 84104. When they were new, we explained the purpose of the room and encouraged them to hang out. The only people that we tend to get short with in chat are people that ignore the "This is not a live support room" banner.

It’s a sad thing to see, it’s gone too far, and it needs to stop before it starts to harm SF and the great work that is does by association.

There are, maybe two dozen users in chat on a busy day out of tens of thousands on the main site. Couple that with the disclaimer that the room isn't for support and I don't see how it's hurting anyone. If you see something that offends you, flag it. AFAIK, no one that's a regular has been chat-banned which leads me to assume 1 of 2 things. 1) People are flagging and those reviewing don't think that it's offensive. 2) People aren't flagging. Either way, that must mean that the great bulk of people that actually participate in chat are not offended.

Right now it’s an open to google sewer where swearing is becoming the norm rather than the exception

I'm one of the biggest offenders as far as profanity goes. I've never been in an environment where there are NSFW rules, so I don't know if f-bombs are considered NSFW. If they are where you work, then I apologize.

That said, I don't use any language in chat that I don't use in the workplace to co workers. Obviously, I keep my "s's" and "f's" to myself when the CIO is floating around, but afaik, my CIO doesn't read the Comms Room :) Swearing just to swear is stupid. I do it from time to time. I'm stupid just like everyone else. Asking people not to swear when it's warranted or in the flow of conversation is a bit much though. We're all adults.

and rallying the pack to pile on the clueless noobs is commonplace. The 'chat pack' is running amok.

As it related to SF noobs in general, I think a lot of that is addressed here and isn't chat-specific: Worse than usenet? Our image to prospective new users. I don't think that chat moderation will help us be gentler to dumb users, we'll see the question whether someone oneboxes it in chat or not.

We certainly don't pile on to chat noobs. There are a lot of newer chat users in the last 6mo or so, including Basil, AdrianK, Bart De Vos, Dan and 84104. When they were new, we explained the purpose of the room and encouraged them to hang out. The only people that we tend to get short with in chat are people that ignore the "This is not a live support room" banner.

It’s a sad thing to see, it’s gone too far, and it needs to stop before it starts to harm SF and the great work that is does by association.

There are, maybe two dozen users in chat on a busy day out of tens of thousands on the main site. Couple that with the disclaimer that the room isn't for support and I don't see how it's hurting anyone. If you see something that offends you, flag it. AFAIK, no one that's a regular has been chat-banned which leads me to assume 1 of 2 things. 1) People are flagging and those reviewing don't think that it's offensive. 2) People aren't flagging. Either way, that must mean that the great bulk of people that actually participate in chat are not offended.

Right now it’s an open to google sewer where swearing is becoming the norm rather than the exception

I'm one of the biggest offenders as far as profanity goes. I've never been in an environment where there are NSFW rules, so I don't know if f-bombs are considered NSFW. If they are where you work, then I apologize.

That said, I don't use any language in chat that I don't use in the workplace to co workers. Obviously, I keep my "s's" and "f's" to myself when the CIO is floating around, but afaik, my CIO doesn't read the Comms Room :)

and rallying the pack to pile on the clueless noobs is commonplace. The 'chat pack' is running amok.

As it related to SF noobs in general, I think a lot of that is addressed here and isn't chat-specific: Worse than usenet? Our image to prospective new users. I don't think that chat moderation will help us be gentler to dumb users, we'll see the question whether someone oneboxes it in chat or not.

We certainly don't pile on to chat noobs. There are a lot of newer chat users in the last 6mo or so, including Basil, AdrianK, Bart De Vos, Dan and 84104. When they were new, we explained the purpose of the room and encouraged them to hang out. The only people that we tend to get short with in chat are people that ignore the "This is not a live support room" banner.

It’s a sad thing to see, it’s gone too far, and it needs to stop before it starts to harm SF and the great work that is does by association.

There are, maybe two dozen users in chat on a busy day out of tens of thousands on the main site. Couple that with the disclaimer that the room isn't for support and I don't see how it's hurting anyone. If you see something that offends you, flag it. AFAIK, no one that's a regular has been chat-banned which leads me to assume 1 of 2 things. 1) People are flagging and those reviewing don't think that it's offensive. 2) People aren't flagging. Either way, that must mean that the great bulk of people that actually participate in chat are not offended.

Right now it’s an open to google sewer where swearing is becoming the norm rather than the exception

I'm one of the biggest offenders as far as profanity goes. I've never been in an environment where there are NSFW rules, so I don't know if f-bombs are considered NSFW. If they are where you work, then I apologize.

That said, I don't use any language in chat that I don't use in the workplace to co workers. Obviously, I keep my "s's" and "f's" to myself when the CIO is floating around, but afaik, my CIO doesn't read the Comms Room :) Swearing just to swear is stupid. I do it from time to time. I'm stupid just like everyone else. Asking people not to swear when it's warranted or in the flow of conversation is a bit much though. We're all adults.

and rallying the pack to pile on the clueless noobs is commonplace. The 'chat pack' is running amok.

As it related to SF noobs in general, I think a lot of that is addressed here and isn't chat-specific: Worse than usenet? Our image to prospective new users. I don't think that chat moderation will help us be gentler to dumb users, we'll see the question whether someone oneboxes it in chat or not.

We certainly don't pile on to chat noobs. There are a lot of newer chat users in the last 6mo or so, including Basil, AdrianK, Bart De Vos, Dan and 84104. When they were new, we explained the purpose of the room and encouraged them to hang out. The only people that we tend to get short with in chat are people that ignore the "This is not a live support room" banner.

It’s a sad thing to see, it’s gone too far, and it needs to stop before it starts to harm SF and the great work that is does by association.

There are, maybe two dozen users in chat on a busy day out of tens of thousands on the main site. Couple that with the disclaimer that the room isn't for support and I don't see how it's hurting anyone. If you see something that offends you, flag it. AFAIK, no one that's a regular has been chat-banned which leads me to assume 1 of 2 things. 1) People are flagging and those reviewing don't think that it's offensive. 2) People aren't flagging. Either way, that must mean that the great bulk of people that actually participate in chat are not offended.