Timeline for What is the definition of "managing information technology systems"? (with particular reference to Heroku in this case)
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| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:29 | comment | added | EEAA Mod | Don't get hung up on the restarting thing. It's just a benchmark of sorts to determine if one is truly managing the system in question or is merely using it. | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:24 | comment | added | Angular4 Kiddie | Thanks EEAA. That comment actually contains a lot of information that is pertinent to my original question. Sven, could you edit your original answer to note that at the very least users thought to be managing an information technology system should have root access? This seems to me a useful clarification of the original definition. | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:22 | comment | added | EEAA Mod | @RailsKiddie Could you, for instance, install auditd and configure it as needed to catch and research something like this? No. Could you run a packet capture on the server? No. You have very limited access to the server that's running your application, and thus, again, are a user of the system. Bear in mind that similar questions from users of Google App Engine, Parse (RIP), etc are also asked and closed on a fairly frequent basis. We're not just picking on you here. | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:22 | comment | added | Sven Mod | Yes, essentially that's what I mean, albeit taken it to the extreme. Are you root? Good. If not, the question is off-topic. You are not root on Heroku, I guarantee you that. | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:20 | comment | added | Angular4 Kiddie | So managing information technology systems is defined by being able to restart a server? I'm sure that's not what you mean, but could you try to give a more holistic definition that covers at least a realistic proportion of what would be expected as per the regulation definition? | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:18 | comment | added | Sven Mod | On a shared web hosting, I can read log files, add software packages, upload files remotely. But, like with Heroku, I can't restart the web server or even the whole system. That's the level of access we are talking about. | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:14 | comment | added | Angular4 Kiddie | I can access the console and can run commands remotely, including viewing server logs. I can also install and build applications remotely on the Heroku server and even install third-party applications. What additional functionality would define administrative control (which I am assuming you are using as a direct substitutable for "managing information technology systems")? | |
| Apr 2, 2017 at 17:08 | history | answered | SvenMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |