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Remove as migration target now. It's been a problem for years, so I don't know how anyone could possibly think waiting a little longer will change things.


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Entirely justified, though regrettable. The kinds of things they ship our way are usually in the small-operator area that's always been a problem for us. The surly target-market http://sysadmin1138.net/mt/blog/2012/09/08/surly-target-market.png The green area is where most developers (though not all, which is where things get complicated) reside, and those ...


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This is the nuclear option. If all else fails, it will be the solution. That said, I'd like to try a few other things first, and see how they work out. First off, we have a gigantic backlog of questions with pending close votes on them. Many of these may need to be closed, but few should be migrated. A recent change to how migration works removes that ...


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As a DBA mod I am receptive to this with no hesitation, I only ask that people who do choose to migrate consider our FAQ. When moderator-only migrations occur, it is often discussed with the mods beforehand, specifically because there may be some hesitation between both parties, especially so in our case, as early on we did not appropriately define our FAQ....


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Web site control panels such as cPanel and Plesk are extremely unlikely to be used in a professional environment. They're more commonly seen with small and one-man operations where the expense of the control panel is judged to be less than the expense of an actual system administrator. While the control panels make it relatively easy for users to perform ...


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The answer to this question is complicated, and has a lot to do with the depth of the /review queue on Stack Overflow. The large rise in rejected migrations is coming as questions with 1-2 close votes on Stack Overflow are being dredged up and migrated by the badge-seekers. When the question gets here people look at it and someone puts a close vote on it, ...


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We have been through this dozens and dozens of times. The topicality of this site is brutally clear. Let's take a look. If you're not signed in and go to the front page you see this: OK, fair enough. Still, some people may miss that. I understand how that could happen. Next, they click "Ask a Question". What are they presented with there? (I'll split ...


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You should still vote to close. Other people's votes are not your responsibility. All you can do is vote correctly. Certainly, disagreeing with a close vote isn't a valid reason to flag, for example.


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How about this? Questions involving web hosting control panels are off-topic because they customize their systems so that standard system administration methods no longer apply. Some related topics may be asked on Webmasters or see Where can I ask questions about web hosting control panels? 17 characters left :)


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We can't add more targets to the migration list (it's an arbitrary hard limit set by the SE staff). The sites currently on the list (SO, SU, U&L, DBA) are much more important. Some stats for migration in the last 90 days: SU: 152 U&L: 79 SO: 37 DBA: 18 SEC: 4 When you think it's really necessary to migrate, raise a flag (the mod might ...


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I read through the question but I don't see anything that would make it obviously off topic, nor did I see anything that suggested any other site in the network would be a better place to ask. You originally posted it on the weekend, when we have fewer people overall reading the site. It looks like you edited it today, which does bring it back to the ...


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If the required experts aren't on SU, then SU should be doing whatever they can to attract those experts. Home networking is explicitly off topic here and I don't see that changing any time soon. There's nothing stopping you from asking the question here and leaving out the part that it's in your home if you have legit gear. If you post a question asking ...


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Generally speaking I'm against migrating anything > 90 days old, unless it's been discussed with the other site & they want it. I'm more against migrating old stuff with accepted answers -- there is little to no benefit for the receiving site here IMHO. There are lots of off-topic questions in our history - These should probably be closed, and possibly ...


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The question is SuperUser material, but not because it does not mention the word "server." The fact that it doesn't mention if his instance of Lion is the server version doesn't discount it immediately. In my experience with Apple Servers, it's not uncommon for Apple SysAdmins to refer to the OS as it's base name and leave off the "server" designation. (As ...


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Yes, for the majority of users on SF, this distinction is important for several reasons. Browse through meta.sf to get the picture, this is a regular topic here. It boils down to "We are not the helpdesk for the internet". Our target audience are professional system administrators exclusively and we have certain expectation of users participating here that ...


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We had a lot of arguments over that in past years. ServerFault is unusual in that we have five such targets, but we managed to get them. The problem at its core is a simple design philosophy: Bulleted lists reach the tl;dr limit around 5 items. Stack as a whole has been trying to keep such often used lists under the 5 limit. We have 5 (top level) ...


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SO is absolutely famous for migrating to the wrong place (and for migrating questions that should be deleted, haven't read yours so not saying this applies). Nope, it should have been migrated to [SU] or [Apple.SE]


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Some general guidelines in the wake of the new official-ized rules (all opinions my own and not representative of any collection of kittens I may or may not have in the documentation bins above my desk!): If your question is explicitly about a home network you're likely to be bounced out of ServerFault as Off Topic. There was a time (before SU existed) that ...


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From this post: Enable automatic deletion of old, unanswered zero-score questions after a year? If the question is more than 30 days old, and ... has −1 or lower score has no answers is not locked ...or... it was closed and migrated to a different site ... it will be automatically deleted. TL;DR "Tumbleweed" Questions ...


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The Don't migrate crap rule is covered extensively in the comments on EEAA's answer, but I thought it should be explained more clearly: "Don't migrate crap" is excellent summary of the attitude towards migration across all SE sites and it's a very useful single rule, but it's not the only rule. Look at Gilles's comment on Jeff's official answer; there's ...


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Thanks for letting us know. I will start sending people in that direction when they have questions about running their web site.


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I'm as quick as anyone else at voting to close or migrate OT questions but there are times where it can be a bit of a grey area. e.g. My home network also hosts the secondary DNS for my employer's domains. Of course if I had a question about that instance of Bind I'd "forget" to mention that it's running in my home DMZ. Sometimes the word "lab" can be ...


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The rejection rate has gone up because more people are reviewing close votes and because someone (he says coyly) is searching for "migrated:1" on SO and casting an initial close vote on the crappy ones. A couple things I've noticed: A lot of the questions migrated here from SO are basically abandoned. Often the OP doesn't have an account here and if there ...


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As taken from the the most upvoted answer here. If the treatment has not been unfair, telling them to take it somewhere else on the network only moves crap around for other sites to deal with. Only if we're dealing with an edge case which is off-topic on the current site, but good and on-topic on an other, should you advise them to take it ...


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If it's got an accepted answer against it, we prefer to leave it. Shuffling answered questions is kinda pointless. However, there's no reason you can't answer it and migrate it...


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Our FAQ is pretty clear on this: and it is not about … Networking outside the professional workplace Running servers at home for personal use And yes, this does mean that there is no one definite spot where network experts hang and ask questions to all comers. A lot of the people here could probably make a lot of friends that way over on SU ...


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It doesn't look like the information about posts being migrated (PostHistory.PostHistoryType=17) is stored in the data dump. The best data we have is is in the migrations section of the 10k tools In the last 90 days SU 323 SO 77 U&L 44 DBA 33 Apple 32 Webmasters 27 AskUbuntu 20 Security 17 mSF 1 Others ...


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First off you're right in that the question fails anything in a home setting and is therefore off topic for Sever Fault. Your flag was automagically handled by Community ♦, someone must have voted to close Off Topic and (I think) agreed with you. The question itself being home use, Linux and media server probably falls into the overlap between U&L and ...


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It was deleted automatically by the Stack Exchange engine that runs the Server Fault community, because: Negative votes Very low views No interaction from other members (no answers, comments) I'm surprised it was deleted after just over a month, but they are always tweaking the system based on known patterns. I guess the patterns show that a question with ...


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Most likely no, due to a more or less arbitrary limitation imposed by the SE staff. I can't find relevant discussions right now, but if I remember correctly, there was much debate to even get a fourth migration target instead of the usual three (not counting meta.sf). Also: I very rarely migrate anything to a site not on the list and for the small number ...


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