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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
If it was pertaining to how do i manage my website in cpanel, this is somewhat understandable as they are a user, on a host, and likely not an admin. There are even videos of how to do literally everything from usercp side. But when it pertains to more complex management like making an adjustment that would change a setting in 4 programs, finding a compatable string for that parameter that they all support would be nice -- since they all accept the EXACT same param.
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
ok, so if you completely ignore the fact that generally, people are adding answers to these questions and positive comments before super meta has a chance to insta-close, means nothing right ? I am trying to be more constructive, but it's near impossible as I don't see how one can justify that 'the community' doesn't want this, when there is clearly a demand, and response. -- until meta comes along and closes.
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
The 'community' consisting of 50k+ reppers.... sure. ServerFault is useless if not for discussion about 'Server' administration. When you let shit like serverfault.com/questions/702383/… on, which isn't even ADMIN, that is UserCP --- so hypocritical
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
Don't use a product that hampers you from doing your job LOL. Show me one product that does everything cPanel does -- better, and I will use it. Mainly user delegation and full CP for users to administer their jailed environment auto-configurable using a secure web api. --- ready ... .GO >>
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
Further > cPanel messes up a server to such an extreme extent that standard sysadmin practices, tools, troubleshooting techniques no longer work > and then you must exclude pretty much every distro of linux or windows since they vary dramatically from even a tiny point revision or even installation choices, server selection, and so on. Your statement bears no prudence as to why a server running cPanel is not subject to questions about administration. If you took two seconds, you would notice that it's all the same shit as on other boxes + monitoring. Nothing super special under !
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
If by unpopular in the community, you mean only those with 50k + rep matter, then sure, in that you may be right since it's all about quota. Easy questions = fast rep. But that question aside from 50k+ reppers, was not being recieved badly until it got run over by Michael. What you failed to understand is the issue is in regards to setting the protocols, for which, even Dovecot is a mystery. cPanel just provided a box to apply that more conveniently across basic services.
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Why do people think questions about cPanel/WHM is the same as questions about cPanel?
It was closed because the mere presence of cPanel on a server makes troubleshooting this sort of thing difficult if not impossible to do without causing the entire cPanel house of cards to fall down around you Interesting you should state that as I managed to do just that troubleshooting to go from what cPanel's PCI compliant 'B' rating to 'A-' on cPanel web services without said 'house of cards' falling down or any actual deep modifications to the system. I think you are thinking about Plesk, or if cPanel, from 1996 when linux distros themselves was not stable.
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What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
I am in agreeance with not walking people through non administrative tasks, however I do not agree with a complete blockade on something simply because it is a manager or offers some automation or ease of use for certain aspects using mostly open packages.
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What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
Sorry @voretaq7, this comment was more in kind towards those who are thinking no assistance should be given for control panels here even if it is only from the administration side, not from the consumer side. In this I actually agree with you.
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What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
If having a collection of applications run after the linux kernel has been installed using a popular distribution is a problem, then one would think you would simply stop using said software. Wait ... that would be every 'flavor' out there. You are either administrating a server, or you are a user. cPanel has an interface for both via the web which are very VERY different from each other even though named the same. In addition, cPanel does prefer to use their tested software. Something which RedHat / CentOS (based on RHEL), are forgetting to do.
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What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
So, in a nutshell you are stating that software is ok so long as it's unsupported and not paid for, and that it is absent of any sort of tool in the form of a script, set of scripts, application, or set of applications, or any combination of these -- which assist in making the tasks simpler ? I would say that nails out around 90% of serverfault content. Just state you don't support any software or firmware of any kind. Only physical as long as the hardware doesn't have any software driving it !
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