Timeline for Missed opportunity to provide a good answer to a less than ideal question?
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| Aug 31, 2011 at 19:01 | vote | accept | Dana the Sane | ||
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| Aug 17, 2011 at 19:53 | comment | added | voretaq7 | @WesleyDavid - Quite correct sir. | |
| Aug 17, 2011 at 19:02 | comment | added | Wesley | @Voretaq7 Unless my dyslexia is acting up again, I think you got your "former and latter" bass ackwards. | |
| Aug 17, 2011 at 4:02 | comment | added | voretaq7 | To expand a bit on @womble's comments, there's a difference between wanting to attract experts (and develop newbies into experts) and being "just for the experts" -- The former turns into an echo chamber quickly. The latter is what I see as the SE network's goal. Bringing in new people and new ideas is critically important (at least on technical sites like SF and SO), and the best source of those are inquisitive newbies. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 22:01 | comment | added | womble Mod | Don't put emphasis on "advanced" -- well-thought-out basic questions are encouraged (they're great rep bait, if nothing else). Meditate a little on the basis of "professional"; think about the characteristics (apart from "gets paid") that make someone a professional in their field, such as a willingness to learn, not sponge off others' knowledge, and so on. This dovetails nicely with "community", which means that if you're asking of others' time, you respect the time they give you by asking the best durned question you possibly can -- which, I'm sorry to say, yours wasn't. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 21:40 | history | edited | Dana the Sane | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 16, 2011 at 21:34 | answer | added | John Gardeniers | timeline score: 2 | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 21:29 | history | edited | Dana the Sane | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 16, 2011 at 21:25 | comment | added | Dana the Sane | @womble Agreed, and part of my reason for posting is to help figure out where the line of expert/professional is. Again, if you're accurately representing the bar for questions, then the faq could be amended to state that SF is for '.. professionals to ask advanced questions about system administration. If your question is on Basic/Intermediate systems administration tasks, it should be directed at SU". This would help rid SF of people like myself who have to do the job, but don't meet the requirements expected by the community (I know I'm getting off topic here). | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 21:15 | comment | added | womble Mod | "SE will not cater to anyone but experts." -- from listening to the podcasts, I'm fairly certain that that is an explicit design goal. More than once I've heard Joel and Jeff express a sentiment along the lines of "if you don't attract the experts, then it's a big clueless newbie fest, and if you encourage bad questions you drive away the experts". Keeping question quality high is the only way to keep experts around, and you're asking questions here because the experts are here. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 19:12 | answer | added | user9517 | timeline score: 4 | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 19:09 | comment | added | Chris S | @Dana, completely agree with Voretaq. In addition each question is judged on it's merits. This question had a mix of 'do my job for me' with 'I don't actually know what cross-platform compatible implies' and "stuff that's been done before". Your next question could easily be one that really stumps the most experienced admins. Nobody should be excluded based on who they are or what knowledge level they have; but questions will be voted based on the apparent knowledge level of the person asking the particular question. The purpose of SF is for the community to get the Answer, you included. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 18:09 | comment | added | voretaq7 | @Dana - As a junior admin, especially a junior *NIX admin, you should expect that your questions will be answered by pointing you in the direction of a solution and saying "Go play with it until you make it work". With the exception of big/interesting problems or questions about configurations (with examples) SF doesn't really do the "I can has code??" type answers because one size very rarely fits all. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 17:37 | comment | added | Dana the Sane | @Chris I disagree on the basis that not all professional sysadmins are aware of everything they need to know to do their job. While you might feel I'm unqualified for my job, the faq (see section 1) doesn't set any requirements on qualifications. However, it may be the that this is the general consensus of the SF community. If that is the case, and taking your points into consideration, I doubt that any potential questions I have would meet the 'base level'. I do want to clear up if that's the expectation though, otherwise I should be looking elsewhere for assistance. | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 17:26 | comment | added | Chris S | A slight off-topic correction and related thoughts: Though SF is part of the SE sites, it's purpose it to cater to System Administrators and other Professional Business Network Support Personnel. Almost all the other sites are intended to include hobbyists and semi-related fields, not the case with SF however. While this doesn't require users being "experts" it does imply a certain base level of knowledge (which you have demonstrated you don't have, no offense intended). | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 17:25 | history | edited | Dana the Sane | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 16, 2011 at 17:02 | answer | added | voretaq7 | timeline score: 7 | |
| Aug 16, 2011 at 16:19 | history | asked | Dana the Sane | CC BY-SA 3.0 |