Timeline for Are cpanel questions really 'professional sysadmin' related?
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| Mar 3, 2019 at 10:33 | comment | added | ychaouche |
@voretaq7 Yes. Let's consider nano a marker for crap too.
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| Jul 8, 2012 at 20:10 | vote | accept | EightBitTony | ||
| Jul 4, 2012 at 14:37 | comment | added | adamo | I inherited a CPanel / Plesk disaster. What a shock! Just give me a command line to do what needs to be done. CPanel questions are not off topic. There exist CLI admins lost in clicks. | |
| Jul 3, 2012 at 8:02 | comment | added | EightBitTony | @JohnGardeniers cPanel is primarily focused on web hosting, it's branched out over the years, but that's where it started. I don't use webmin, and can't stand it, but my point was that if you want a GUI to administer a UNIX server, webmin is more generic than cPanel, it's free (cPanel isn't). cPanel isn't generic enough to be a real server admin tool (no support for Samba, AFAIK, for example). I wasn't supporting webmin, just putting an other nail into the 'cPanel is a general server GUI admin tool' argument. | |
| Jul 3, 2012 at 0:56 | comment | added | John Gardeniers | @EightBitTony, I find it astonishing that you would condemn all cpanel questions and then turn around and actually suggest people us Webmin, which is the worst of the worst in cpanels. | |
| Jul 1, 2012 at 7:22 | comment | added | Lie Ryan |
@Safado: Feature Request closed as invalid, add cpanel to your Ignored Tags and user CSS to .ignored-tags { display: none; }
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| Jun 27, 2012 at 18:24 | comment | added | Safado | Feature Request: Whenever someone tags their Question with cPanel, it hides the question from everyone except the author. | |
| Jun 26, 2012 at 14:40 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@Bruno I agree - In fact I said this in my answer. A question should not be closed simply because it mentions cPanel, it should be closed because it is crap for other reasons. Mentioning cPanel is just a marker for crap, like "I was editing /etc/hosts in nano and now nothing resolves"...
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| Jun 26, 2012 at 9:53 | comment | added | Bruno | @voretaq7, I realise there is a bias against it here (and I'm not a big fan myself). However, I'd rather see cPanel questions closed as NARQ or NC if applicable, rather than on the basis that they're about cPanel (OT). The purpose of cPanel is clearly to provide basic access to a (limited) number of sysadmin tasks. In comparison, a question about router admin (for example) via its web interface (even if full access is only via CLI) could clearly be on topic. Rather than aiming at a particular product, downvotes and NARQ/NC closure reasons are perfectly good tools to deal with bad questions. | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 23:11 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | I will however admit to a STRONG anti-cPanel bias - In my experience people who rely on it tend to be poor sysadmins whose thinking is constrained by what cPanel exposes and where they can click. I've seen it used too often as a crutch for the inept to give it serious weight as a tool for the competent. | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 23:09 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | @Bruno The key distinction is that it is possible to perform all "normal admin tasks" through GUI tools on Windows - the GUI exists to help you get to those tools. It is not possible to perform even some common admin tasks exclusively within cPanel - the GUI doesn't expose the tools necessary. (It would be more like trying to manage a windows server from, for instance, just the AD MMC snap-in). | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 21:15 | comment | added | Bruno | @EightBitTony Not everyone can choose what tools they want to install and which resources are available to them. I wouldn't use cPanel myself, when possible, I'm just saying that cPanel questions are not necessarily off-topic. Some places have requirements for which cPanel may be sufficient (or maybe not, but that could be the subject of a question), and the purpose of cPanel is clearly about sysadmin topics, which may well be done in a professional capacity. | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 20:50 | comment | added | EightBitTony | I think it's different - if people want a GUI for administering their Linux server don't they just install webmin and get it over with? With Windows, you have all that stuff by default, I don't know any Professional IT staff who install cPanel to make administering their Linux server easier? | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 20:37 | comment | added | Bruno | There's probably a Linux/CLI culture element in this. cPanel may just be a tool for people who prefer to click, without making them "inferior" :-) Pushed to the extreme, in the Windows world, you could say "If you are limiting yourself to just"what can be done from within Control Panel/MMC you're no longer a sysadmin, you're an application user". (That's true in a number of cases, except that cPanel is server-oriented, not quite the same domain as the average user's Windows Control Panel.) | |
| Jun 25, 2012 at 18:17 | history | answered | voretaq7Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |