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| Sep 23, 2012 at 2:10 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@kelton52 If you are constrained by implementation requirements you need to tell us that! - we only know what you tell us. Simply saying "a dude wrote a script to handle what we're doing for Sikuli a year ago and I'm stuck supporting that" in your question (or after you were asked for context the first time) would probably have avoided having your question closed and the need for this entire Meta discussion. There is no reason a community of volunteers trying to help should have to pry key contextual information out of you like an impacted wisdom tooth.
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| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:55 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @Iain Listen, I can take suggestions and whatnot, but I have to walk back and say 'Yes this is possible, and here's how" or "No this can't be done because of x and y"...I've already pitched all the alternatives, but since a dude wrote a script to handle what we're doing for Sikuli a year ago, he figured it'd be faster than writing, for example a python test script....Essentially the GUI is just a dumb interface with a web browser. There are most certainly better solutions, but that's not what I'm looking for. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:50 | comment | added | user9517 Mod | @kelton52: If you had told us all of this in your original question you almost certainly would have had a different outcome. As it is you have fallen foul of meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:46 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @WesleyDavid no it wouldn't, it doesn't change the question. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:45 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | I know one way of doing it via using VNC, but that would mean I'd have to spawn a VNC connection to each machine before it can start work, and there would be 100's...so I was hoping since the windows instances use the generic VGA driver, there was some kind of registry solution, or some kind of driver or app that would make it work. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:45 | comment | added | Wesley | @kelton52 If you had said that from the beginning, this all would have made sense. Your vague use and misapplication of terminology (which is a large part of the confusion) could have easily been excused and overlooked if we had just known you were trying to record the screen while disconnected. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:44 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | I think it's a bad approach, but that doesn't make it unanswerable. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:43 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | But here we go. Just because this is getting fairly annoying. My boss wants me to use Sikuli to load test some server code we have running by booting up a bunch of EC2's, and running through our custom dialogs while I take metrics on Sql Server 2008. I personally think it would be better to take the UI out of the equation, and just programatically make these calls, but for some reason, he just won't accept that as an answer. So, I figured someone on here might know HOW to keep the display running after disconnecting, or without even connecting at all. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:38 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @ChrisS I specifically DON'T put my reasoning in here most of the time because I already KNOW all of the solutions, and am only interested in the one I'm trying to solve. I don't want to spend a bunch of time explaining myself. And again, with what you said, my motives are irrelevant to the real question here, so why are we STILL focusing on that? How does what I'm doing affect whether or not I can, with software, view the screen when I'm not connected? | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:36 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | @kelton52 No, I do not know what or why; which is precisely why that information is relevant to a solution. Further, the fact that you are so adamant about not telling us makes me think that what your doing is illegal, embarressingly foolish, or something similar. Further I believe there is a better way to accomplish what you're doing, one that is supportable, maintainable, and professional. Professionals do not chase their tail for days to implement and ugly hack. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:30 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @ChrisS Do you even know WHAT I'm doing, or why? The usefulness of what I'm doing is irrelevant to my original question. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:30 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @WesleyDavid There is a hacky workaround I'm trying to avoid because it's cumbersome, but a workaround non the less, so don't be condescending. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:29 | comment | added | Wesley |
@kelton52 What are you even talking about? Make a windows EC2 instance, try and capture a screen shot when you aren't RDP'd in there. You get a black screen, because the display won't render Of course you can't get a screenshot of a computer that you're not connected to. If you aren't RDP'd in, then you're not connected so little ones and zeros can't go back and forth. This is very literally like complaining that your server doesn't turn on when it's not plugged into a power outlet. Explain your situation more so we can figure out rightly what it is you even mean in the first place.
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| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:27 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | Had you considered that what you want to do is doing it wrong? And that you're spending more time fighting with what you want, and the people who are trying to help you, than if you had just described the actual problem in the first place? | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:24 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | @ChrisS It doesn't matter, as I never said I was looking for alternative solutions. There is a direct problem, and it isn't related to the specific task I'm trying to complete. In fact, I specifically didn't want answers that were the equivalent of "Why not do this instead". I know what I WANT to do. If it isn't possible, then I'll find an alternative(well I know all my alternatives if I can't find the answer, or it isn't possible) | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:23 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | Further, the reason you want to do that is pertinent. For example, resource monitoring is easily done to log files, then replayed by the GUI for your convenience. Taking screen shots would be barbaric at best. So if that's what you're trying to get at, your question is complete off-base as the Answer is "use logging to a file". The presumption that there is no better way to accomplish the task is almost certainly flawed, especially given you lack of knowledge evidenced by your inability to use terminology correctly. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:20 | comment | added | user9517 Mod | @kelton52: Ok, if you want your question answered you have to provide sufficient information for people to understand it. As it is your question is the very epitome of NARQ. Your terminology is jumbled. There are no details of what you want to achieve and there is no context. If you had provided the information from your comments above then there may have been a better outcome for you. People here really do like to help but you have to help them to help you. | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:04 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | Maybe follow the steps, and replicate it if you think I'm just pulling stuff out of my butt. Make a windows EC2 instance, try and capture a screen shot when you aren't RDP'd in there. You get a black screen, because the display won't render. I'm assuming due to the default driver, or something. That's what I'm trying to figure out | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 18:02 | comment | added | Kelly Elton | It only doesn't make sense if you've never had the problem before, and that's the problem. If you haven't run into this issue, then you can't possibly answer it, so how can you possibly deem it worthy of closing, just because it doesn't make sense to you? | |
| Sep 22, 2012 at 17:59 | history | answered | user9517Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |