Timeline for Proposed new language for FAQ
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:16 | comment | added | sysadmin1138 Mod | @martin's The tag-language you're looking for probably looks a lot like this one's tag-wiki. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:09 | comment | added | Dan | @martin's Tags can be created and the price we pay for being, fundamentally, a community built site is that sometimes people in the community will do things wrong. It's all but impossible to stay on top of this, and deleting tags won't cure the issue. To be honest, I don't think it's that hard to understand what's on and off topic. There will always be gray areas, and sadly, there will also be people who simply refuse to listen to what they're being told by more experienced people. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:07 | comment | added | martin's | The FAQ needs to be improved and tags need to, at the very least, be "active" in that they should warn newcomers that the subject is off-topic. This would certainly give our Vulcan friend pause. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:06 | comment | added | martin's | You see the problem is that the wrong message is being sent at many levels. The FAQ, despite claims otherwise, is not precise enough. To a newcomer without folklore it means something totally different than what regulars think or want SF to be about. Second, the availability of tags such as XAMPP seem to indicate that this is OK here. You have to place yourself in the shoes of a new visitor. Make him a Vulcan. What's the conclusion? Certainly not in alignment with folklore at all. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:05 | comment | added | Dan | @martin's Because that's not how the SE platform works. We didn't develop it - take that complaint over to mSO if you feel it's a big issue. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 17:03 | comment | added | martin's | OK, got it. On the same page, why does the XAMPP tag even show up? And, even when it shows-up, why doesn't it say in bold type "this is off-topic in SF"? | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:49 | comment | added | user9517 Mod |
@martin's: You have misunderstood what you were told. The vmware tag had been blocked to make people tag their questions correctly with the relevant VMware product tag. Go here type vmware into the Type to find tags: [ ]
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| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:44 | comment | added | EEAA | @martin's - VMware questions are most definitely not off-topic. The sole reason the vmware tag was banned is that VMware is a company, not a product. People were using the vmware tag where they should have been using a "vmware-esxi" or "vmware-vcenter" tag. Tag banning is not an indicator of topicality. Tag bans are put in place due to repeated improper use of a tag. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:41 | comment | added | martin's | Take another subject that "town elders" seem to indicate are off-topic here, VMWARE. Here's a quick search: serverfault.com/search?q=vmware You have over 4,000 questions there and I see a single closed question in the first 50. This, as a new visitor, tells me that VMWARE is fair-game here, when, apparently, it is not. Look at the first question in the search: "VMWare Workstation hdd issue". What's the message? | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:37 | comment | added | martin's | Put yourself in the shoes of a new visitor, maybe even someone who's Q was migrated here from SO. Nothing whatsoever is telling this person that, to continue along the example, XAMPP questions are off topic. Nothing. The FAQ needs to do a better job of communicating what SF is about and off-topic questions need to be shredded. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:35 | comment | added | martin's | How is this for an example. I come to SF to get help with an XAMPP question. No, not for my computer in the dorm but for a pro environment with a bunch of users, etc., etc. I look at the FAQ. It doesn't, in any way, say this is off-topic. I run a quick search: serverfault.com/… Wow. 566 questions on the subject. Only one of them closed. Look at the first one "lost xampp password". Clearly EVERYTHING XAMPP is OK here. Post away. Right? | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 16:32 | comment | added | martin's | Folkloric interpretation of the FAQ doesn't work. You need to be more precise. Perhaps my push for this comes from being a hardware and software engineer. When I do either of those, whether it means writing code for an FPGA or, yes, server-side software, I have to be very precise or things don't run. I live in a world where definitions are important. So do you I suspect. | |
| Jan 1, 2013 at 13:24 | history | edited | user9517Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 1, 2013 at 13:14 | history | answered | user9517Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |