Timeline for Can we do anything to change the dynamic of the site?
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| May 17, 2013 at 15:30 | history | edited | gWaldo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
adding link to Canonicals
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| May 17, 2013 at 15:00 | comment | added | Rachel | As one of those programmers that comes here whenever I have a question about a server, I can tell you that this is absolutely a huge part of the problem. "IT Professional" to most people means any person that has a career working with information technology. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 21:51 | comment | added | user9517 Mod | @MichaelHampton: As no one ever reads it, it really doesn't matter what's in it most of the time. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 21:02 | comment | added | Michael Hampton | @Bryan Funny, I just made the same point in chat not long ago. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 20:59 | comment | added | user11604 | @MichaelHampton, please refer to my comment to MDMarra's answer regarding 'developer' and 'IT professional'. Speaking of the about page and FAQ page though, and I apologise to all for constantly banging on about this, but they carry conflicting information. How can we expect the quality of questions to improve when we can't even get our own guidelines correct? | |
| May 16, 2013 at 20:28 | comment | added | Wesley | IT Professional has historically included developers up until recently, oddly I've seen it pushed heavily by Microsoft. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 19:18 | comment | added | gWaldo | @voretaq7 So we build up the Canonical question list and close as duplicate. With extreme prejudice. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 19:16 | comment | added | gWaldo | @r.tanner.f I agree: It absolutely does not give them a free pass. But we can downvote, close, and edit without being hostile. ...Well, we should be able to... | |
| May 16, 2013 at 19:06 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@gWaldo To be brutally blunt: Developers have their own site (actually they have TWO of them: Stack Overflow and Programmers), and as end users/power users they have even more sites (Superuser, Unix & Linux, Ask Different, Ask Ubuntu). Server Fault was intended to be for the systems/operations equivalent of developers: The people whose profession is building and maintaining servers, networks, or managed desktop environments. "How do I get my IP address?" is not the kind of question such a professional would ask - it's like a C programmer asking what #include does...
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| May 16, 2013 at 19:04 | comment | added | Michael Hampton | @r.tanner.f Yes, developers are doing exactly that. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:56 | comment | added | rtf | I don't understand why it matters if developers are included in the "IT Pros" definition. Either way it doesn't give them or anyone else a free pass to ask off-topic, low quality, or stupid questions. Are people coming to SF and seeing the "IT pros" clause and thinking "I'm a dev! That means I can ask anything, right?" | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:42 | comment | added | Sven | @gWaldo: I guess the main reason to not to change this text is that none of us, including the mods, can, it has to be done by SE staff. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:42 | comment | added | Michael Hampton | You make a good point. Perhaps the developers think they're IT professionals. The FAQ and About page could definitely be clarified, in this case. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:40 | comment | added | gWaldo | Funny, but in most of the enterprises that I've been in, most (if not all) of the developers were in the IT department with me. They were also being paid the same way as me, generally making them - by definition - a Professional. If we don't want developers asking questions, why not change the scope? | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:38 | comment | added | Michael Hampton | The problem here is, to everyone else, "IT Professional" excludes developers. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:35 | comment | added | gWaldo | "Why the downvote?!" --Yes, I hate those comments too. | |
| May 16, 2013 at 18:34 | history | edited | gWaldo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
lengthening thoughts.
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| May 16, 2013 at 18:28 | history | answered | gWaldo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |