Timeline for Are we becoming too judgmental about questions relating to "professionalism"?
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| Jun 10, 2014 at 20:11 | comment | added | user62491 | @Adam - 1. Nothing wrong with being a causal contributor as long as your contributions are appropriate. 2. This is a problem for everyone. Agreed. 3. It is elitist. A portion of the SF community is saying, "this site is not for everyone or all types of questions". There are hundreds of sites with larger defined audiences (SU being one). SF is supposed to be different. I don't see anything wrong with this. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 19:43 | comment | added | Adam | After reading others answers/comments I realized that I have the power to influence at least 1 aspect. I can try and exemplify the behavior that I would hope to recieve when asking a question when I try and answer or help an OP. This does not mean there is an issue with the community, and it does not make me better than anyone else. If I want to change the perception, the only thing I can do is to try and contribute positively. i.e. The Golden Rule | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 19:38 | comment | added | user9517 | It looks like you're confusing scope and audience. Our scope is very wide, our audience is quite narrow. Unfortunately our audience is mostly outside of our target and this brings quality issues just like everywhere else on the internet. Sadly there aren't enough people who fight the good fight and the hoards are winning. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 19:37 | comment | added | Adam | @kce This is very well written and makes sense. Thanks. In my own experience, I have 3 issues with contribution, which Chris calls out in a comment to my question. 1 - I am a casual contributor to SF, part due to my skills in sysadmin have detered over the years since changing my professional focus to development and part due to other responsibilities consuming my life. 2 - I find it hard to find questions that I can answer because of poor filterability. 3 - My impressions of this behavior/policy as closed/elitist. I don't believe the people are elitist, it just comes off that way. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 18:13 | comment | added | Michael Hampton Mod | @pauska Those are good ideas. Though I suspect that SO will get them and we won't... | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 18:12 | comment | added | pauska | @MichaelHampton SE might have something soon to help us.. look at the bottom half section of the latest SE podcast blog entry: blog.stackoverflow.com/2014/05/… | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 18:05 | comment | added | MDMoore313 | very well then. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:44 | comment | added | user62491 | @BigHomie - How to attract more professionals?. That was back in '10. Might be time to revisit it. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:41 | comment | added | MDMoore313 | @MichaelHampton I always thought it was really good fried chicken. Barring that, is there a meta question about that yet? I think it would make a good one there or either in chat. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:40 | comment | added | MDMoore313 | which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes the rest of any remaining talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to eventually kill the site and migrate all questions to.... super user. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:38 | comment | added | Michael Hampton Mod | The question nobody has come up with a good answer for yet is: How do you attract and retain high quality people and content? | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:36 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @BigHomie The problem isn't that it results in a small community, it's that it results in a death spiral. As in, the talented people get fed up with the poor signal to noise ratio and participate less or quit. As a result of less expertise on the site, the signal to noise ratio worsens, causing more talented people to participate less quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, which causes the signal to noise ratio to worsen, which causes more talent to quit, ... | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:32 | comment | added | MDMoore313 | If that results in a small community then so be it. It's about quality, not quantity. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:30 | comment | added | user62491 | @MichaelHampton - Right. "Programming" vs. "System Administration" defines what content is in scope. "Professional" defines who should be posting that content. We can play mental gymnastics all day with "professional mindset" vs. "professional" but we are putting an ability restriction on our scope. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:30 | comment | added | MDMoore313 | I take that to mean we are "free and open to everyone" that are "system and network administrators needing expert answers related to managing computer systems in a professional capacity." Equal Opportunity Q&A, affirmative action, etc.?? In all seriousness very few will stick around 1) if they see a bunch of n00b `How do I set a static IP address PLEZ HALP ASAP!!!! or 2) No one can answer their SCOM/$Technology question in a reasonable time, which could be in part due to #1. I say we continue to downvote and get rid of bad quality questions even moreso than before. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:23 | comment | added | Michael Hampton Mod | We are free and open to everyone. But, just as SO only accepts questions about programming, we only accept questions about professional system administration. I should also remind you that there are far more programmers than system administrators, by orders of magnitude. | |
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