Timeline for What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Jan 30, 2016 at 7:14 | comment | added | Kraang Prime | Sorry @voretaq7, this comment was more in kind towards those who are thinking no assistance should be given for control panels here even if it is only from the administration side, not from the consumer side. In this I actually agree with you. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 6:06 | comment | added | EEAA Mod | @SanuelJackson You're deliberately mis-representing here. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 5:08 | comment | added | Kraang Prime | So, in a nutshell you are stating that software is ok so long as it's unsupported and not paid for, and that it is absent of any sort of tool in the form of a script, set of scripts, application, or set of applications, or any combination of these -- which assist in making the tasks simpler ? I would say that nails out around 90% of serverfault content. Just state you don't support any software or firmware of any kind. Only physical as long as the hardware doesn't have any software driving it ! | |
| Jun 12, 2015 at 14:30 | comment | added | Josh | +1 to this. I used to be a professional sysadmin whose job included managing servers with cPanel on them. The questions I asked which related to cPanel were almost always "How can I do this sysadmin task in such a way as it won't break cPanel", which had I asked cPanel for support, they would have said "We don't support that"... yet, I often found ways to still use the standard command-line tools we all know and love and exist alongside cPanel. It saddens me that such knowledge can no longer be shared with others who are in the position I used to be in. | |
| Apr 11, 2015 at 2:00 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | @MichaelHampton My FreePBX box gets neglected like the readheaded Linux stepchild it is. I would beat it except I think it would like that. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 18:03 | comment | added | Michael Hampton Mod | @voretaq7 Right, my FreePBX box gets managed via yum and puppet just like every other box, and FreePBX really doesn't care. Try that with a machine with cPanel installed and you're in for a world of hurt. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 15:44 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@Hyppy smitty has the advantage of being designed by the OS developer, but the underlying utilities know nothing about it either (in fact as I recall smitty will show you the command it's about to execute and even let you edit it if you disagree with its ideas about what needs to happen -- would that crappy webmin-like panels could do the same and maybe educate the frikkin' users about what's going on behind the scenes!)
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 15:42 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | @MichaelHampton The version of FreePBX Distro I'm using is pretty old, but it's got a separate "thing" to set the machine's IP & DNS configuration and a web-based OS package manager. It wouldn't surprise me if they've gotten rid of it (it's CRAP!), but it's a part of this release. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 13:46 | comment | added | Hyppy |
smitty is more like MMC or Server Administrator from Windows-land, in my opinion. Those are "control panels" for Windows, but they're made to be there. cPanel, webmin, and their cousins are an abstraction that the underlying utilities know nothing about and are often the cause of just as many problems as they solve.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 7:49 | comment | added | Michael Hampton Mod | FreePBX (at least, the version I'm running) manages asterisk, apache and little else. Your line cards, if you have them. It really doesn't get invasive in the way cPanel does, and even the "FreePBX Distro" is little more than CentOS with FreePBX preinstalled. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 3:21 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@sysadmin1138 Many do. But many " operating systems" (FreePBX Distro, for example) ship with the control panel baked right in - the web admin panel for the FreePBX distro is functionally equivalent to smit on AIX. If you admin FreePBX Distro on the command line it "looks suspiciously like" CentOS, but if you do anything tricky on the command line it will quickly disabuse you of that notion by eating your changes or misbehaving in other ways.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 3:07 | comment | added | sysadmin1138 Mod |
Your point about smitty echoes mine about these panels. Smitty is a utility that ships with the OS itself for managing the OS. These panels... kinda make their own OS out of one that looks suspiciously like one we know from elsewhere.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 | history | answered | voretaq7Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |