Timeline for What should Server Fault do with questions about web hosting control panels?
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:14 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 20:41 | comment | added | Wesley | @Sven Also, there is no punishment involved. That word has been bandied about a lot in this discussion. "People keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means." Question closures are not punishment. We keep ServerFault's topicality relevant by closing questions that are not on topic: rollerskating, bug spray, admin panels on servers. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 20:41 | comment | added | Reaces |
@JonEricson I'm not entirely sure where you got seems to be under the impression that grep is an administration panel from. This is a somewhat common occurrence with closures done by Hopeless where he chooses the least confronting close reason that could fit. In this case it was clearly RTFM as the question completely misconstrued the usage of grep. However as the question popped up in his tag clean-up / closure wave he read it, decided that closing it for cpanel reasons was less harsh and it blew up in his face. I don't see the amount of malice / incompetence you're implying here.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 20:40 | comment | added | Wesley |
@Sven I don't believe that the mere presence of an admin panel makes a question OT if the core of the question is obviously unrelated to it. But the core of a question can never be unrelated to the presence of an admin panel because an admin panel is so rooted into a system. It's virtually identical to the case of someone on SuperUser asking why a system component is behaving a certain way, and then confessing that they have a virus. The virus's presence makes everything the system has and does immediately unsupportable with a repeatable answer almost impossible to give.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 20:23 | comment | added | Sven Mod | @Wesley: I don't believe that the mere presence of an admin panel makes a question OT if the core of the question is obviously unrelated to it. Taking this stance is akin to punishing people just for using them and this isn't my goal at least. If the panel affects the question, fine, close it, but if not, leave it open (if otherwise acceptable). | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 19:20 | comment | added | Wesley |
It seems to be under the impression that grep is an administration panel, which is bizarre. The close reason plainly states "Even the presence of an administration panel on a system..." which makes it clear that grep is not being considered as an administration panel, but rather that an admin panel is on the system which makes any question about any thing on the system off topic. Admin panels on a system are almost universally the kiss of death for any repeatable, standard solution. SF's community has deemed them (almost) universally off topic as a result. Reference: 5 years of meta =)
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 19:17 | comment | added | Wesley |
@JonEricson The question is originally about a basic Unix command, yes, but even the presence of an administration panel on a system can and will introduce so much unexpected behavior that questions which are discovered to be about systems that have them installed, even if it does not appear to be pertinent, are off topic and unanswerable. In that case the OP outed themselves as working on a system with LxCenter installed on it by mentioned a lxadmin directory.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 17:07 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff |
@HopelessN00b: You mean the grep man page, right? Cause your comment doesn't seem to be aware that the question is about a basic Unix command. It seems to be under the impression that grep is an administration panel, which is bizarre.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 16:55 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @Reaces That was exactly it, actually. It seemed nicer and more constructive than "Closing because you don't know what the hell you're doing/need to read the man page." | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 16:45 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff |
Yes, the first example was one that caught my eye too. The reference to lxadmin is clearly incidental to the question at hand. If the asker had happened to mention some other directory, the question would not be closed. The problem was clearly a misunderstanding of how grep works and not the directory being searched.
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| Apr 10, 2015 at 15:09 | comment | added | Reaces | I'm kind of imagining Hopeless letting out a long sigh at the top one and closing it as "cpanel" to be merciful. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 15:03 | history | answered | Jim B | CC BY-SA 3.0 |