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Well, I as the OP have no problem with that. But would love to know where an appropriate place for such a discussion among system administrators would be.
Although I disagree with you that the cybernetic attempts to define a system have nothing to do with the systems that we manage, I am quite happy with both what jscott and you have replied (and thank you for that). I suspect though that our disagreement on the cybernetic definitions is outside the scope of SF and meta-SF.
