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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:14 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Apr 3, 2013 at 21:10 | comment | added | Kenny Evitt | @HopelessN00b – your comment is arguably rude, which is also a violation of something in the FAQ", but my point was that there is a natural audience of interested (and even intelligent) people that aren't literally IT professionals, and they could benefit from questions and answers that are nevertheless written for that audience. For instance, there are many developers that are more knowledgeable about systems administration than most IT professionals. | |
| Apr 3, 2013 at 17:53 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @KennyEvitt Spoken like someone who's never given an IT-professional-appropriate answer to a non-IT-professional. It never goes over well, and causes only frustration for both the asker and answerer. Never mind the fact that it's explicitly stated in the FAQ, and if a person's not going to even read and follow that, they're not going to be a useful community member anyway. | |
| Apr 3, 2013 at 14:49 | comment | added | August | @Zoredache - if they are a paying client, then I am their sysadmin already. Why would I tell them to hire someone else unless I disagreed with them on an ethical level? The situations of an in-person conversation with a paying client and a question on SF are vastly different. "Hire a sysadmin" cuts to the chase and prevents a long, drawn-out discussion on "why" they should hire one, in which SF is not the appropriate format to have that discussion anyway. | |
| Apr 3, 2013 at 14:01 | comment | added | Kenny Evitt | I think it's irrelevant whether someone asking a question is an "Information Technology Professional". Answers can and should assume that the audience consists of IT professionals however. And questions can be edited to match the intended audience too! | |
| Apr 2, 2013 at 23:09 | comment | added | Zoredache |
So if one of your paying clients asked you the question 'how do you do foo', you think a terse hire a sysadmin response, would be the one that would keep you getting paid? The question was poor, yes I think we all agree, but saying only hire a sysadmin, is almost never a useful answer or comment all by itself.
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| Apr 2, 2013 at 15:38 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @jamieb The whitepaper ewwhite linked to for the OP to read (not as a complete answer) was 188 pages. If you want to say that a question, to which a partial answer is 188 pages long is anything other than impossibly broad, then whatever, there's not much point in discussing it with you. | |
| Apr 2, 2013 at 12:36 | comment | added | jamieb | Regarding point #2: A better analogue would be "I'm trying to develop a basic wiki using MySQL and PHP, what are some of the basic steps I should be aware of?" And that is a perfectly valid, beginner question. Point #3: It's not "impossibly broad" this topic is routinely covered in whitepapers and even on forum posts ("what's the first things you do when prepping a public-facing server?") Also, in the context of this question, this person wasn't a "user", he was asking an admin question. | |
| Apr 1, 2013 at 7:03 | history | answered | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |