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Apr 13, 2017 at 12:14 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://serverfault.com/ with https://serverfault.com/
Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
Sep 9, 2013 at 3:51 answer added Evan Carroll timeline score: -11
Sep 8, 2013 at 5:12 history edited Falcon Momot
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Aug 9, 2013 at 14:30 comment added Aaron Copley Actually, you know what really drives me nuts? Continually seeing Meta posts with 10x the votes than actual content will ever receive. (Not to dismiss the importance of Meta.)
Aug 9, 2013 at 14:07 comment added Aaron Copley I have a couple of questions with combined thousands of views and literally 12 combined votes. Why is voting so hard? If you take time to click on the question it's probably worth a vote one way or the other. Likewise, I put time and energy into answers and even OP won't vote -- let alone my SF peers. Part of me just wants to help people and not give a damn about the points. The other part finds motivation in it.
Jul 18, 2013 at 14:37 answer added sorin timeline score: -8
Jul 18, 2013 at 13:44 answer added Joel Coel timeline score: 1
Jul 16, 2013 at 13:16 comment added Tim I stopped using SF because there is some pretty bad poison in the community. Some grumpy people around these parts makes it not worth it to visit this site.
Jul 14, 2013 at 22:02 answer added Michael HamptonMod timeline score: 11
Jul 12, 2013 at 9:59 comment added JamesRyan Good content is what solves people's problems, not what keeps answerers interested. If you don't want to deal with the mundane then narrowing scope isn't a great way to deal with that, providing steps to help people help themselves or automatically providing or redirecting to common answers would be better.
Jul 12, 2013 at 9:52 comment added JamesRyan Don't lose sight of the fact that 'people who are generating good content' actually consists of 2 groups with different priorities. As a questioner if my boring/slightly off topic question gets dismissed or hounded then I am likely to take my good questions away too.
Jul 11, 2013 at 17:06 comment added user62491 @JamesRyan - If people who are generating good content no longer participate because they are tired of sorting through what the community has defined as poor content there won't be any good or relevant answers to find. See RobM's comments in my original post. The issue at stake is how do we keep the content-providers here but grow the site and its audience at the same time?
Jul 11, 2013 at 16:50 comment added JamesRyan The poor content is irrelevant when you are searching for a relevant answer to a problem. I don't see serverfault not working, I see a bunch of people with false expectations complaining.
Jul 11, 2013 at 15:48 comment added user62491 @JamesRyan - The problem isn't that the questions are boring. It's that about 25% fail to meet SF's standards and I'm willing to bet a further 10% or 15% barely qualify. My point is that people always complain about the poor content but never vote it down or more importantly vote up the good content.
Jul 11, 2013 at 10:45 comment added JamesRyan I think this post is a symptom of a community that has become too wrapped up in itself. People come here to solve problems, not for your entertainment. Every question isn't going to be interesting, a boring question still deserves an answer.
Jul 10, 2013 at 16:32 comment added user62491 @Chopper3 - There is lots of great content (both in answers and questions) that have very few up votes. The voting mechanism does some important things but I really want to emphasize that it shows the poster that the community values their content. Everyone's always whining about the "river of crappy questions" (which are indeed crappy) but no one up votes the good content (see Ward's examples in his original call to arms). For the "How" of voting see Ward's answers below.
Jul 10, 2013 at 16:19 comment added user62491 @SvW - What else are supposed to do? I think it's pretty clear at this point that SE's idea of what SF is supposed to be is pretty divergent from what the active community here wants SF to be. We're not going to win that one so if it's a choice between doing nothing, doing nothing productive (appealing to SE) or upvoting the good content here why not upvote?
Jul 10, 2013 at 7:03 comment added user9517 @AndrewB: Your answer to this is in the downvote tool tip.
Jul 10, 2013 at 6:29 answer added Ward - Trying CodidactMod timeline score: 1
Jul 10, 2013 at 2:48 comment added Andrew B A conundrum I often run into is that a question is legitimate, not a duplicate, and probably deserves an answer...but the amount of legwork they've done sucks. Doesn't deserve an upvote, probably doesn't deserve being downvoted into oblivion and ignored, and I'm too lazy to improve it.
Jul 9, 2013 at 17:59 comment added TheCleaner @Iain - "it is useful and clear". Useful is pretty subjective...useful to the community I'd presume. I guess my point was more to lie SvW said...
Jul 9, 2013 at 17:07 comment added user9517 @TheCleaner: Float your mouse over the upvote arrow next to a question, see what it says - that's all the guidance there is on voting. So just vote as you see fit but voting more is always a good thing.
Jul 9, 2013 at 17:04 comment added user9517 @makerofthings7: Sadly the river of crappy questions is causing more and more people to be less interested.
Jul 9, 2013 at 16:12 comment added makerofthings7 I liked the concept of this site in the beginning, but it's degraded into a utility that seems less useful than I hoped. Now I can care less and come here for last ditch assistance, when I wanted to come here first. It's such a shame, so much potential.
Jul 9, 2013 at 5:39 answer added BeowulfNode42 timeline score: 4
Jul 8, 2013 at 16:09 comment added Chopper3 How do you mean 'vote'? can anyone explain?
Jul 8, 2013 at 15:58 comment added TheCleaner Even though I know we are supposed to upvote for questions that are formatted well and thoughtfully laid out, I tend to only upvote questions based on "This question appeals to my interests". I also don't normally open a lot of questions just to vote...the questions I open to even look at (or possibly) answer again fall into "interesting" to me. Hopefully there's enough varying interests here on SF that people don't have to read over questions that have no appeal to them simply to make an informed vote.
Jul 8, 2013 at 10:23 history tweeted twitter.com/#!/ServerFault/status/354184071376670720
Jul 8, 2013 at 5:44 answer added BeowulfNode42 timeline score: 4
Jul 7, 2013 at 15:25 comment added Andrew B I won't deny it, I switched to using rss feeds to track a few choice tags (dns, PAM, etc.) and speed up identification of content I care to invest time in. Unfortunately, people of my ilk contribute to the problem that Ward describes in his answer.
Jul 7, 2013 at 10:18 comment added Sven So, you want us to do a lot of extremely boring and ultimately useless busywork because the SE staff is unable and/or unwilling to do it's job (yes, keeping the site usable and attractive is their job, and they fail miserably)? Sorry, I pass.
Jul 7, 2013 at 5:21 answer added Ward - Trying CodidactMod timeline score: 22
Jul 7, 2013 at 5:09 comment added Ward - Trying Codidact Mod I really should vote to close this as a dup... meta.serverfault.com/questions/3706/…
Jul 7, 2013 at 5:08 comment added Ward - Trying Codidact Mod @FalconMomot Speak for yourself, buddy!
Jul 7, 2013 at 2:20 comment added Falcon Momot We seem to vote to close a lot, but not up or down.
Jul 7, 2013 at 2:17 comment added Wesley I would just like to say, I was the first one to upvote this post. How meta.
Jul 7, 2013 at 1:56 history asked user62491 CC BY-SA 3.0