Timeline for Should this question have been / why was this question closed?
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| Jul 3, 2014 at 11:39 | comment | added | MadHatter | Ah, right - yes, sorry, that makes a lot of sense. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 11:05 | comment | added | HopelessN00b |
@MadHatter Because of his rep, the OP couldn't see the deleted post that was ostensibly the trigger for locking that thread. "Me too"/spam answer deleted by Chris S♦ Jun 17 '13 at 3:22 and then thread locked by Chris S♦ Jun 17 '13 at 3:23.
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| Jul 3, 2014 at 7:03 | comment | added | MadHatter | I was curious about the assertion that PS couldn't see that it was closed because of his rep, so I logged out and looked at the question again. It's still very clear that it was locked by Chris S on the date given, so I think in formulating responses we don't need to be concerned that the OP couldn't see the question was locked. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 16:12 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | @HopelessN00b " This is really not the best place to rant" True. My point wasn't about the products themselves, merely what the people who just said "I used X" left out of their answers. Locking the question means no one can provide more comprehensive answers, and no one can expand upon existing answers, which is a shame. That was all I was trying to say with the above. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 16:06 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @ParthianShot This is really not the best place to rant about Spacewalk's crappy documentation, the unholy mess you can make of Puppet or whatever else... though your comment string certainly does help make the case for closing/locking that question being the proper course of action. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 16:04 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | If people used Spacewalk, they could have clarified that doing so required them to skirt the gaping holes in spacewalk documentation, and manually configure new installs because the documentation on "answer files" doesn't exist (incidentally, I actually read through the source and wrote my own docs for that format). | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 16:02 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | When people say "I used Puppet" they're obscuring the fact that, to use Puppet, they had to do some awful things Puppet was not designed to do. It is not for patch management. Its whole purpose is implementation-agnosticism, which is the antithesis of patch management. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:59 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | If someone simply says that they "used spacewalk" they're not clarifying what that use entailed, so they're not really answering how they accomplished their goal. The answer "Hit it with a a hammer." is good because it specifies "Hit". If you just said "Used a hammer" the person still has no idea how to do the job. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:57 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | If you ask someone "How do you fly a kite" and they answer "with my hands" that answer, while it may be technically correct (in that hands were involved), is a problem with the answerer rather than the question itself. "How", I would argue, is a question of process, rather than ingredient, and if I want to determine which process is easiest to work with (which I will cede does depend on products used) a good barometer is "How much effort must people go through to accomplish something simple?". | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:54 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @ParthianShot "How do you imbed a nail in a piece of wood?" "Hit it with a a hammer." "How do you approach centralised patch management for Linux?" "Use the following application." | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:50 | comment | added | TheCleaner | I'm guessing Chris deleted that answer because Eric had already answered with Spacewalk. So it was more of a "me too" comment to an answer that was a year older. | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:48 | comment | added | Parthian Shot | The fact that people answered with "with the following product" simply indicates they misread the question. "How" implies a process question; not only what did you use, but how did you get it to do that. s | |
| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:36 | history | edited | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 2, 2014 at 15:29 | history | answered | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |