Timeline for Server Fault needs professional-quality questions, not just questions from professionals
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Nov 24, 2014 at 21:58 | comment | added | the-wabbit | @Wesley there are hardly any intermediate questions here because all intermediate questions are answered elsewhere already (even in the respective product's documentation) and the "intermediate" admin knows where to look. The remaining questions are either beginners' (who don't know where to look due to lack of experience) or ones not answered easily (and thus possibly never even posted due to the unlikelihood of getting an answer). | |
Nov 24, 2014 at 15:55 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | @strugee WFIW, I've been doing systems administration for 17 years and I'd consider myself intermediate. You are most definitely falling into the Dunning-Kreuger Pit | |
Nov 24, 2014 at 3:13 | comment | added | Wesley | @strugee This was the best intermediate question I could think of in the last few days. Might have been the only intermediate question that popped it's head out of the swamp of despair: serverfault.com/questions/646175/… | |
Nov 24, 2014 at 1:57 | comment | added | strugee |
@Wesley, MDMarra - could you give an example of an intermediate question? this is not so much for the discussion as for my own perspective. I think MDMarra nailed it when he said that perspective may be part of the problem. what I call intermediate you may call beginner, and what I call beginner you may call "doesn't even register". it may be that even if there aren't less doesn't-even-register questions on the site, it would feel better if the signal-to-noise ratio was better. in that case, s/intermediate/beginner/ and the answer still applies. maybe?
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Nov 24, 2014 at 1:51 | comment | added | strugee | @MDMarra hmm, okay. I think that's an interesting point. the way I would define beginning would be "barely knows how to use a commandline, has at most a rough understanding of how to use e.g. dpkg, ping and other basic tools", I'd define intermediate as "knows to document things, knows to think about tools like etckeeper or maybe Puppet, can handle dpkg with ease, etc.", and I'd define advanced as "eats database corruption, RAID failures, mysteriously dropped packets, OpenStack-type clustering, etc. for breakfast" - I'm assuming this doesn't match your definition? | |
Nov 24, 2014 at 1:13 | comment | added | Wesley |
"Server Fault has no intermediate questions and no tolerance for intermediate questions" I would love it if we had more intermediate questions on the site. Everyone would love it if we had more intermediate questions on the site. They'd be tolerated all day and night. The problem is that the lion's share of questions coming in are not intermediate. They're beginner at best (which is okay in itself I guess), and completely misunderstand all that is good and holy about computer science / system administration at worst.
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Nov 23, 2014 at 17:13 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | Having quickly looked over the questions you've asked on Server Fault, I'm confident saying that they're beginner or hobbyist level questions, not intermediate questions. I don't have a problem with simple or beginner-level questions and users, as those are necessary and even valuable, and I don't think that's what the majority of us crusty old users get pissy about. It's the shitty questions that we close and/or delete dozens of a day, and the users who don't even know enough about the basics to help. | |
Nov 23, 2014 at 12:57 | comment | added | MDMarra | This may be part of the problem. Many people wouldn't view your type of questions as intermediate. They would classify it as beginner or hobbyist not intermediate. "You don't know what you don't know" applies here. You don't have exposure to the high-end of the profession, so you don't know what's out there. Because of that, you may incorrectly classify your skill level, which may lead to hurt feelings or friction when you post on the site. Note that I don't mean you specifically, but folks like you who would likely not be considered intermediates. | |
Nov 23, 2014 at 8:01 | history | answered | strugee | CC BY-SA 3.0 |