Timeline for Getting a bit too snarky
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| Aug 15, 2011 at 8:06 | comment | added | Rob Moir | I honestly don't see the problem with those 3 examples. They show people pushing the asker hard to address the real problem rather than the perceived one. While some of it is phrase rather brutally, I think that addressing the real issue rather than working around it is a good honest professional approach. | |
| Aug 15, 2011 at 4:21 | comment | added | Mark Henderson Mod | @Nix - "if someone random from Google comes across a question that he has the same issue to and they see name calling they might not think this is the community they would want to stick around long for" - years ago, before I knew what I was doing, google was how I fixed all my problems. And often I would see forum posts saying "Why are you doing that, that's downright stupid/dangerous/impossible", which then caused me to re-evaluate my techniques. Telling people they're jamming a round peg into a square hole is important, and sometimes shock tactics are the best way to get through. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 21:42 | comment | added | Nixphoe | @womble - understood, and that's a great way of putting it, "that is a stupid idea." By no means was that me calling you out. It was me more being preachy about my philosophy of the OP's question/comment. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 21:03 | comment | added | womble Mod | @Nixphoe: When you get the "security auditor is an idiot" question deleted, your point about not calling people names will be less hypocritical. In the meantime, I'll just say that while I'll often be sarcastic and what you might call "snarky", I do try very hard to play the ball and not the man; I feel "that is a stupid idea" to be very different from "you are a stupid person for having that idea". | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 16:22 | comment | added | Nixphoe | A look from the outside in, or if we're trying to grow a community, if someone random from Google comes across a question that he has the same issue to and they see name calling they might not think this is the community they would want to stick around long for. I’m all for preaching as in other answers here, as it helps with why we hold those views. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 16:21 | comment | added | Nixphoe | @womble - I totally agree with you. I think the line gets drawn at where do we as a community draw the line? Do we want to be as helpful and profession as possible? Or do we want to call names to try and get our point across. I think if you called anyone an idiot, the knee jerk reaction is to hyper focus on the name calling, and less on what the subject matter is. I'm mainly coming fromt he point of view of customer service (a daily thing I have to work with) and less from a professional-to-professional point of view. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 9:26 | comment | added | John Gardeniers | Iv'e read each of your three examples and can't for the life of me see what you believe is snarky about any of them. Maybe it's a cultural thing but if you find those snarky perhaps you're just being over sensitive. Sure there have been some real snarky posts but those three are not amongst them. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 3:58 | comment | added | womble Mod | The problem with tact is that it's rarely effective in actually getting through to the person who needs it. I've got plenty of examples where subtle and tactful just resulted in persistent idiocy. The choices really boil down to "ignore it and perpetuate unchallenged stupidity on the Internet" or "challenge the ignorance robustly so that it is clear that this is bad". I guess "flag for incineration so the bad information doesn't hang around" could work, if the mods want to deal with it all, but that does nothing to fix the larger stupidity problem. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 3:27 | comment | added | Nixphoe | @womble - well you do have good input. It could just be put more tactfully. "The right answer is to FIX THE PROBLEM, not bandaid it into submission" is the honest truth with out calling the person a moron for not having the same common sense that others might. | |
| Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 | comment | added | womble Mod | Yay, 2 out of 3! I'll stick to down- and close-votes in the future. | |
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