Timeline for Secure alternative to ssh gets closed as too localised?
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| Jan 5, 2012 at 12:06 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | A quick Google should find examples of top/bottom/inline posting, as it was a very hot issue in email and Usenet postings. The end result is that Outlook made it a default to top post, and since it took actual effort to edit and compose messages, lazy repliers simply hit "reply" and type their thought (even if it's one line in answer to a three paragraph message) and hit "send," then justify after the fact. Really it boils down to "I don't want to compose a message, email is a crappy instant messenger for me." | |
| Jan 5, 2012 at 12:04 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | It's not top posting to <quote> - rebuttal/address the point, <quote> - rebuttal/address the point. That's inline reply. Top posting is basically hit the "reply" button (quoting the previous email, normally) and spilling a response at the top and hitting send, keeping the entire contents of the previous message all below your message. If someone reads your response and thinks, "What is he talking about?," he or she must scroll down and read the previous message and divine the section you were referring to. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 18:33 | comment | added | MDMarra | I really wasn't sure what top posting was. Why is that a problem? You have multiple points in your question, why should I not be allowed to take each individually and address them for both clarity and organization's sake? | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 18:07 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | Top posting is by many considered lazy as it tends to be the Outlook default when you just hit "reply" and type what's on your mind and hit "Send", and can lead to emails full of unreadable cruft all mixed up when several people are involved. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 18:06 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | Adding your replies immediately at the point where it's relevant and erasing irrelevant information from quoted material is called in-line reply, and quoting their message/email and adding your reply at the bottom only is bottom-posting. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 18:05 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | @ChrisS: you quote a person's message, adding your new content at the top, out of chronological order. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 18:02 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | As for keeping on topic, the question was migrated to a security exchange. This wasn't about administrating systems or servers, it was about finding a way to subvert SSH blocking from a government. Keep the questions on topic. And as for Usenet, have you ever actually used Usenet? | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 17:59 | comment | added | Bart Silverstrim | Questions about subverting policies has NEVER been tolerated on SF to my recollection. We do not exist to help people crack sanctions imposed by their governments or their sysadmins. Same thing happens to questions asked by people who want to get to services through the Great Firewall of China, same thing applies to people asking about DRM services restricted by country, etc. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 17:55 | comment | added | Chris S | @dunxd That photo was not photo shopped. I don't even own a copy of Photo Shop. Also link to Meta.StackOverflow for your convenience. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 17:48 | comment | added | MDMarra | All that said, if you feel egregiously wronged, then go post on m.so about it. They govern all of SE and have a much wider audience. See what kind of response you get. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 17:47 | comment | added | MDMarra | @dunxd Perhaps you should lighten up a bit. I don't see any insider jokes, just a regular one and it was in the comments, not the answer. Have you ever been to any other meta, including mso, which governs all of SE? The bottom line is that you disagree with how the community is chosing to moderate this community moderated site. You posted on meta, where community moderation is discussed. You didn't like the answer you got from the community so you keep poking and prodding. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers you're receiving but that's no reason to get heated. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 17:42 | comment | added | Holocryptic | @dunxd No, I'm not kidding. And I do think you're taking this a little hard. I'm just going to leave it at that. An extended discussion on this point is... pointless. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 16:58 | comment | added | dunxd | @Holocryptic - you're kidding right? Top-posting. Insider jokes. Links to photoshopped screen shots. This whole thread reads like a Usenet thread. Any moment now someone will mention Ahmadinejad, invoke Godwin's law and threaten to have someone banned... | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 16:50 | comment | added | dunxd | @MDMArra - how is a question asking for alternatives to the ssh protocol anything to do with "products or services" mentioned in the FAQ? So if someone where to ask "is there an alternative to TCP" you would close the questions as off topic rather than answering "perhaps UDP meets your needs"? | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 15:41 | comment | added | Holocryptic | I also don't see where he's behaving like he's on a forum, and you seem to be taking this a little hard... | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 14:42 | comment | added | MDMarra |
@dunxd "Not about: Product or service recommendations" would cover it if it weren't too localized. I also am not sure what you mean by your last comment. If you have a problem with anything I've done, flag it or open a meta post about it. If you have a problem with the voting process in general, post it on meta stack overflow. Be warned, though - they eat bad ideas alive.
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| Jan 4, 2012 at 14:39 | history | rollback | MDMarra |
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| Jan 4, 2012 at 10:40 | comment | added | dunxd | Stack Exchange sites are not forums - so don't behave like you are on a forum when you use a Stack Exchange site! | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 10:22 | comment | added | dunxd | The FAQ defines Off Topic: Questions on Server Fault are expected to generally relate to servers, networking, or desktop infrastructure, within the scope defined in the faq." I have not found any "strict guidelines" which forbid this kind of question. Please show them to me. | |
| Jan 4, 2012 at 10:20 | history | edited | dunxd | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 3, 2012 at 18:43 | comment | added | Chris S | It's just you: i.imgur.com/CAKGe.png | |
| Jan 3, 2012 at 18:36 | comment | added | MDMarra | @ChrisS Something is bugged in the voting system. I'm not seeing my answer as +100000. | |
| Jan 3, 2012 at 18:32 | history | edited | MDMarra | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 3, 2012 at 18:30 | comment | added | Chris S | +100000 "Stack Exchange sites are not forums" | |
| Jan 3, 2012 at 18:27 | history | answered | MDMarra | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
