Timeline for Are we becoming too judgmental about questions relating to "professionalism"?
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:14 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Jun 10, 2014 at 17:09 | answer | added | user62491 | timeline score: 9 | |
| Jun 7, 2014 at 15:49 | comment | added | nedm | +1 @RobM, you are right: I don't understand the zeal for ruthlessly closing questions on any of the stack exchange sites. | |
| Jun 4, 2014 at 20:33 | comment | added | Rob Moir | @nedm then you don't understand any of the stack exchange sites. While you might well disagree with this site's criteria for closing questions and you're welcome to do so, ruthlessly closing questions that fall outside of a site's scope is a central part of the stack exchange sites; they are meant to be centres of excellence in their subject areas with curated content, not a free-for-all. | |
| Jun 4, 2014 at 15:17 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | @Adam Just to be clear, we've identified a set of "problems" we have, but nobody has found answers to any of them. I really need to write it up in some kind of canonical post, as you're far from the first person to be irked by the symptoms of these problems. We've had some really bright minds pour over it too. And the same paradigms work for other sites, but don't seem to work for SF. | |
| Jun 3, 2014 at 7:11 | comment | added | nedm | @Adam, my input for you is that this is an unwinnable battle. I have never understood why a simple downvote or just ignoring the question entirely isn't enough in so many cases. | |
| Jun 3, 2014 at 6:23 | answer | added | MadHatter | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 21:23 | comment | added | Adam | @Iain I started to edit this question again (3 times actually) and struggled with fixing its wording. Instead, I'll let the discussion continue/die off for now. In the meantime, I have provided the OP of the linked question with some suggestions. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 18:20 | comment | added | Adam | @Iain I apologize for coming off as claiming the community is broken. I do not believe that. I believe that people have the best intentions. I will reword my question to focus less on the community and more on the sites. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 18:19 | comment | added | Adam | @Iain I think the beauty of the stack exchange sites is the ability for professionals to show their professionalism by helping others, even if they are currently less of a professional in the field as another. Chris calls out some difficulties that may impede our abilities to do that, and discussing those difficulties could allow us to generate feature requests to improve these sites. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 18:09 | comment | added | user9517 | I hear what you're saying and to be honest there's nothing new here. Perhaps you should spend more time in our community before trying to fix it. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 18:07 | comment | added | Adam | @Iain I'll accept the broken windows theory, and I am not saying that this question is good "as is." Moderation, and the voting to close a question is analogous to policing our community. What I am trying to discuss is the means in which we police. I think through a constructive discussion we may be able to come up with a better means of "policing" the community. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 17:26 | comment | added | user9517 | Given hat the majority of our questions come from people who are outside our $target market, them passing on a negative experience works for me. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 17:23 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | @Iain Granted, but for whatever reason it's read as the latter, and people are generally 50x more likely to tell friends about a negative experience than a positive one. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 16:36 | comment | added | user9517 | The close reason also says is not relevant to professional system administration not is not professional they are different. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 16:32 | comment | added | user9517 | You need to acknowledge broken windows theory too. Today we have such good search engine ranking that allowing questions like for instance about using XP (or another client OS) as a server will bring hoards of other people with other $similar problems. Server Fault is not here for those people (amateurs). We already suffer from far too may amateurs asking questions that can easily be solved by reading documentation more we don't need. This is not limited to people using client OS as servers either. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 16:22 | comment | added | Adam | Would you mind moving this comment to an answer? I find it very valuable and insightful to the discussion | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 15:29 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | The main problem I have is that by allowing a wider range of content you force potential answers to wade through more of what they don't want to answer before finding something they do want to answer. The site allows for a degree of user filtering by voting; but people don't vote (if you can solve that issue it would solve other problems too). Filtering by tags requires extra Answerer effort to setup, and is less effective than you'd think. Lacking filtering, the effort required to Answer will rise until nobody wants to put that much effort into providing an Answer on a recurring basis. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 15:20 | comment | added | Adam | Thank you for your clarification and your rewrite. I have updated my question with my thoughts on the subject. I will try and think of how to update it further such that I am not taking a stance of defending a help vampire as the link you gave defines them. I completely agree that help vampires are not a good thing, I am hoping to have a discussion about the site and community in a constructive and insightful manner. | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 15:18 | history | edited | Adam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 2, 2014 at 13:24 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | Defending help vampires does not seem constructive to the idea of building a community. We use the "professional" criteria to cull the mass of content our contributors find most objectionable. There seems to be a disconnect between the "professional" intention and the way help vampires perceive it - to be fair, not understanding their own condition is prerequisite of being a help vampire. (Note: a previous version of this comment was fairly described as "judgmental" - this is a complete rewrite) | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 6:44 | answer | added | user9517 | timeline score: 10 | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 6:18 | answer | added | Mark HendersonMod | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jun 2, 2014 at 6:13 | history | asked | Adam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |