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Just got this message:enter image description here Have question votes always been treated differently than votes on answers?

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Ah, should've figured this would be on meta.SO.

Separate vote pools for questions and answers

So now it's 30 votes per day for either questions or answers + 10 additional votes only for questions.

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    The answer is always on MSO, the difficulty is (usually) in finding it.
    – user9517
    Commented May 3, 2011 at 18:40
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    I've stopped visiting MSO because of all the irrelevant noise. This is why I believe that MSO should be for Stack Overflow only, and things that affect all sites should have their own Meta
    – Mark Henderson Mod
    Commented May 3, 2011 at 21:45
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    @Mark I can only agree with you here. As the sites all get bigger, I don't think its doing either the SO users who regard that as their meta or the rest of us who have to remember to visit it for any meta meta discussion any favours.
    – Rob Moir
    Commented May 3, 2011 at 22:02
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    I find meta.SO to be too hostile to outsiders, unless you're a regular you can't take part in the discussions. The only good thing about it is that when something has been discussed and "decided" you can usually find a question about it or a duplicate question with a link to the earlier discussion.
    – Ward - Trying Codidact Mod
    Commented May 3, 2011 at 22:50
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    For a while I thought it was just me but it looks like others are seeing MSO the same way I am. i.e. Not a nice place at all. There should really be a dedicated site for announcements that affect the entire network.
    – John Gardeniers
    Commented May 4, 2011 at 1:31
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    @John, unless you're already epic on SO or mSO, they're extremely hostile. Also, don't even think about addressing a problem that's outside the scope of SO, there are no other SE sites but SO to those on mSO. They've got a pretty extreme case of Programmer Groupthink going on.
    – Chris S
    Commented May 4, 2011 at 17:45
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    @chris too true. On Meta Stack Overflow, if its not a problem for stack overflow itself then it isn't a problem at all, as far as I can see. For example the utter indifference when us and SF complain about being bad question dumping grounds - MSO don't care (as a group effect anyway, there are of course decent individuals there), their toilet is flushing away the bad questions just fine!
    – Rob Moir
    Commented May 4, 2011 at 20:07
  • @ward that's odd.. putting aside the "everything you can think of has been asked and discussed 6 times by now on meta.so" burnout factor, what examples would you give to support this.. anything from meta.stackoverflow.com/users/130540/ward
    – Jeff Atwood
    Commented May 4, 2011 at 23:41
  • @John Gardeniers: The dedicated site for announcements is the blog: blog.stackexchange.com. If that does not provide enough detail, there is a "Recent Feature Changes" list: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/59445/…. Beyond that lies meta.Stackoverflow, which gets into the really nitty-gritty, insider-baseball stuff. Three resources to pick from, depending on your level of interest in this stuff.
    – Robert Cartaino
    Commented May 5, 2011 at 12:38
  • @Robert: there's nothing on the blog about the voting changes, this is the first I've heard of the new features list (maybe there should be a link somewhere obvious?), and meta has problems as previously mentioned.
    – Ward - Trying Codidact Mod
    Commented May 5, 2011 at 19:46
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    @Robert, I've been on SF for a year and 10 months, yet have never seen mention before of blog.stackexchange.com being the place where system wide announcements are made. The point of course is that this kind of information has been made anything but obvious. It's not mentioned in the FAQ and the site name certainly doesn't hint at it being an announcement site. In short, the information has effectively been hidden. Can this please be rectified?
    – John Gardeniers
    Commented May 5, 2011 at 21:29
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    @Jeff: Aren't you somewhat involved in StackExchange? I expect you to instantly recall everything that has ever happened on the entire network of sites, including the fact that most serverfault-related meta questions were migrated off meta.SO over to here: meta.serverfault.com/users/6177/ward
    – Ward - Trying Codidact Mod
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 6:01
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    @Jeff some more: I haven't been too badly abused in my own questions, e.g. meta.serverfault.com/questions/285/whats-wrong-with-serverfault (but I still don't think it was really a duplicate) and meta.serverfault.com/questions/285/whats-wrong-with-serverfault Before meta.SF existed, it was certainly almost impossible to get SF-ers to comment on questions, you'd ask a question and get lots of misinterpretations by SO-ers.
    – Ward - Trying Codidact Mod
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 6:04
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    @Jeff even more: In one case I did feel set-upon and deleted my question. Anyway, the best example of SO vs. SF was the attempt to ask SO-ers not to blindly migrate lousy questions to SF. I think that's what most of us think of when we think of "how meta.SO thinks of SF."
    – Ward - Trying Codidact Mod
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 6:05
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    @Ward your last example was certainly what I was thinking of when I said that the vibe on MSO is: "if something isn't a problem for SO users then it isn't a problem full stop". Usually with an added "now would you interlopers like a cookie and a sarcastic comment before you go back to your cute little websites?" to follow :-(
    – Rob Moir
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 20:35

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