Timeline for Questions to ask the SE staff regarding the future of ServerFault
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| Aug 14, 2013 at 14:33 | comment | added | rtf | @Sirex Why is that sad? I thought it was by sysadmins for sysadmins? I thought we held elections? | |
| Aug 13, 2013 at 21:12 | comment | added | Sirex | @platform, in a nutshell. sadly. | |
| Aug 13, 2013 at 16:44 | comment | added | platforms | The SF community is tough to figure out, until you realize that it's moderated by a bunch of sysadmins. | |
| Aug 11, 2013 at 19:54 | comment | added | Sirex | ... then let people filter the questions by ones which apply to their own knowledge without getting annoyed that the site has questions deemed below them. I'm not saying very basic questions should end up on SF, i'm saying SF and SU aren't actually disparate enough to need their own sites; Its been overly siloed. And there's been some retaliation against filtering options, but i've already got anything windows, active directory etc filtered out via tags as it's not my area of expertise, so why not business size ? | |
| Aug 11, 2013 at 19:50 | comment | added | Sirex | No, i understand that's what it's meant to be, but I don't think it'll actually survive being that way. I can only speak from personal experience, but SF at first appeared hostile to new users to me, and over time I've not been swayed to think otherwise. It's good that people can ask enterprise-y questions and all, but segregating them off into their own site is a bad call imho. It'd be easier to just ask the user at the time of asking the question what type of responses they want (i'm looking for SOHO advice, i'm looking for enterprise etc"). Hell, they do that for bounty questions. | |
| Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 | comment | added | MDMarra | @Sirex you seem to he missing the point of SF. It is for professionals by professionals. This is different from almost every other site in the network. There should be a higher barrier to entry and it should not be a place for any question. not Do you really think questions like this belong here: serverfault.com/questions/530154/… serverfault.com/questions/530153/… serverfault.com/questions/530152/… | |
| Aug 10, 2013 at 15:35 | history | edited | JaydlesStaff | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 10, 2013 at 15:21 | history | undeleted | JaydlesStaff | ||
| Aug 8, 2013 at 7:43 | history | deleted |
user9517 Chopper3 Rob Moir |
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| Aug 8, 2013 at 7:25 | comment | added | Chopper3 | @MarkHenderson - I voted to delete because the question didn't add anything or make any suggestions on how to fix the problems he put forward - i.e. it didn't answer the question at all, it was just a series of comments. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 6:59 | comment | added | Sirex | and i should add, SO has the opposite mantra to SF. Encourage new users, give an impression that it's ok to ask dumb questions if you're new, and generally lower the barrier of entry to new developers. I don't want to say this kind of thing is why sysadmins have a bad reputation, but it's no coincidence in my mind that SO is so popular and SF is dying. Who wants to contribute to a site that gives the impression of being better-than-thou ? | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 6:53 | comment | added | Sirex | @JourneymanGeek i would definitely say SF is a hostile site. There's an air of elitism combined with a higher barrier of entry than other SE sites, which drives new users away. The problem is SF and SU effectively split on professional / non-professional, which is doomed to fail, as its an overly vague distinction. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 3:23 | comment | added | John Gardeniers | I fully agree with Mark that this answer should not be deleted, although perhaps for completely different reasons, but deleting the comments merely supports TheLQ's claims and does the site no favours. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 3:19 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | I don't think SF is hostile at all. I'm mainly on SU, though I've hung out with, answered questions and every so often asked questions. I basically run a VERY small windows network, with linux stuff on the side. I'm careful to ask myself whether a real sysadmin would need to know this before asking. I believe there's a fine line between aggressive but necessary quality control and assholery. I pick up a LOT of useful things by osmosis. I don't SF's hostile, anti-user and insular if you're a sysadmin, or a aspiring sysadmin who gets to know what works here. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 3:02 | comment | added | Andrew B | The same factors that make this site non-desirable for professionals tends to encourage the hostile behavior in those who stick around. (frustration factor) So yes, believe it or not, fixing the problems covered will have a trickle down effect. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 3:00 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | @TheLO I think you should take the time to read meta.serverfault.com/questions/5475/why-professional-capacity and meta.serverfault.com/questions/4111/…. In fact, I think EVERYONE should do so, even those who have read it before. Consider it mandatory prep for the call. | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 2:45 | comment | added | Mark Henderson Mod | I am reinstating this post and clearing the comments. Just because you don't like what someone has said or disagree with them is not a reason to delete their post. Leave it downvoted if you disagree, but deleting it only re-inforces the attitude that TheLQ believes the site has | |
| Aug 8, 2013 at 2:44 | history | undeleted | Mark HendersonMod | ||
| Aug 7, 2013 at 11:42 | history | deleted |
Chopper3 user9517 Rob Moir |
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| Aug 7, 2013 at 10:05 | history | edited | TheLQ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 7, 2013 at 2:53 | history | answered | TheLQ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |