Timeline for Clarifying "Novice questions are off-topic"
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:14 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://serverfault.com/ with https://serverfault.com/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.serverfault.com/ with https://meta.serverfault.com/
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| Nov 21, 2013 at 18:05 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod |
@Sirex There's a difference between I looked it up and found X, Y, and Z but I'm not sure what to do now and there's nobody here for me to ask. and I've got nobody to ask, I'm too lazy to Google, and I refuse to acknowledge the existence of man or MS TechNet -- Novices in the first category generally get treated well. Folks in the second category don't belong in professional system & network administration.
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| Nov 21, 2013 at 8:30 | comment | added | user9517 | @Sirex: Yes, I've been there too but there was no internet so I had to learn to do my own research and more importantly read the documentation (several feet of DEC binders in this case), I am a much better <whatever> for this. The modern way appears to be to hand the keys to the completely clueless without educating them in the basics. They then find their way to our gates and the rest is history. If you want opinions drop into chat there's no shortage of them there and plenty of advice to be had from some exceptional sysadmins. | |
| Nov 21, 2013 at 1:35 | comment | added | Sirex | @iain i can say from being in the position of having no seniors to ask myself that sites like serverfault are utterly invaluable. I'm glad this matter is being discussed on meta. That said it's always good to do research, though i know sometimes i'm not even able to grasp what i'm trying to search for so i imagine that happens to others also... and god knows i've got a ton of advice-needed type questions that i don't even ask here for being primarily opinion based. | |
| Nov 5, 2013 at 19:17 | comment | added | TheCleaner | Downvote for no research, VTC if it is off-topic. | |
| Nov 5, 2013 at 17:58 | history | edited | voretaq7Mod |
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| Nov 5, 2013 at 17:56 | vote | accept | voretaq7 | ||
| Nov 5, 2013 at 10:17 | comment | added | MadHatter | I agree that there's nothing wrong with a "well-written and researched" novice-level question, but I also think nearly every such question I see on SF seems to have skipped over the "researched" requirement. | |
| Nov 5, 2013 at 7:27 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/ServerFault/status/397626199381647360 | ||
| Nov 4, 2013 at 11:10 | comment | added | Jenny D | @voretaq7 "Trend"? That happened to me when I started out 18 years ago... fortunately I had good friends with more knowledge than me. | |
| Nov 1, 2013 at 23:01 | answer | added | Falcon Momot | timeline score: 8 | |
| Nov 1, 2013 at 19:32 | comment | added | EEAA | @voretaq7 I was in that boat 12 years ago when I got my first job...all I had was usenet and my local LUG for reference. :) | |
| Nov 1, 2013 at 19:12 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | What amazes me is there really does seem to be a trend of hiring junior admins & throwing them into an existing (largely undocumented) environment with no senior/knowledgable staff to consult. (That's still no excuse for not making an effort to locate & read documentation, but it's a thing. I blame the "devops" movement and people who do devops wrong.) | |
| Nov 1, 2013 at 18:35 | comment | added | user9517 | It never ceases to amaze me how many junior admins don't have seniors to ask basic questions of or managers to arrange education and don't get me started on reading documentation :( | |
| S Nov 1, 2013 at 17:36 | answer | added | voretaq7Mod | timeline score: 18 | |
| S Nov 1, 2013 at 17:36 | history | asked | voretaq7Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |