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Whereas, the migration statistics as discovered in this meta post show a demonstrated and ongoing trend of mod-only migrations to dba.stackexchange.com, and

Whereas, Webmasters has not resided in the top-4 migration destinations for many months, and

Whereas, the changing nature of released StackExchange sites has fundamentally altered the nature of does-not-belong-here questions,

Therefore be it resolved:
That the 4th migration path for ServerFault be changed from Webmasters to DBA in order to better enable the ServerFault close-voting population to migrate these questions without Moderator action.


Voting will remain open until 1800UTC Jan 14, 2012.

Debate is now open.

  • Note: Adding U&L to spot #5 is a separate debate, and not topical here. – sysadmin1138 Jan 12 '12 at 14:34
  • Agree. I'm probably chief flagger for DBA.SE on SF and SO – gbn Jan 13 '12 at 7:06
  • Voting is closed. Thanks to everyone. – sysadmin1138 Jan 15 '12 at 2:32
  • Deferred?! Until when? – Chris S Jan 17 '12 at 23:42
  • @ChrisS Until I can get an actual answer out of a dev. – sysadmin1138 Jan 18 '12 at 0:16
  • @sysadmin1138 Looks to be done now; we've got U&L as well as DBA, and Webmasters is gone. – Shane Madden Jan 23 '12 at 19:47
  • Probably too late to weigh in now but the ideal would be for the 4 options to dynamically change based on the tags on the question. If it's tagged [ubuntu], make AskUbuntu an option. If it's tagged [mysql], make DBA.SE an option, if it's tagged [security], make Security.SE an option. – Ladadadada Jan 24 '12 at 22:15
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Migration targets have been change, some statistics of interest from a related Meta.SO question.

In the last 90 days (data gathered on January 15th 2012), Server Fault has had 597 question migrated away from it:

  • Super User†: 332, 12% rejected
  • Stack Overflow†: 74, 10% rejected
  • Unix & Linux: 47, 14% rejected
  • DBA: 35, 8% rejected
  • Apple: 32, 0% rejected
  • Web Masters†: 27, 7% rejected
  • Ubuntu: 20, 5% rejected
  • Security: 18, 0% rejected
  • SharePoint: 7, -- not enough data
  • Programmers: 2, -- not enough data
  • WordPress, Web Apps, Project Management, Electronics: 1 each, -- not enough data

†Existing migration targets at time of writing.

Tossing out the rejections, this would mean that approximately 154 legitimate migrations were not covered by our migration targets (compared to 384 that were).

Note, there's about a 10% chance the migration is rejected (closed on the destination site); this is important.

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    What do you consider "rejected"? Do you consider "Closed as duplicate" as a rejection, for example? – MDMarra Jan 23 '12 at 20:00
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As a DBA mod I am receptive to this with no hesitation, I only ask that people who do choose to migrate consider our FAQ.

When moderator-only migrations occur, it is often discussed with the mods beforehand, specifically because there may be some hesitation between both parties, especially so in our case, as early on we did not appropriately define our FAQ.

Having resolved that issue (by appropriately defining our FAQ) we think that it is able to stand up to the test of "does this Question belong on dba.se" and invite any serious inquiry to make sure that we have adequately defined the FAQ.

Thank you all for your consideration of that FAQ, and for helping us to refine it in any way that it is unclear, or needs examples.

Since it was mentioned I should link to the FAQ in question, here you go: https://dba.stackexchange.com/faq

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    I like the DBA.SE FAQ -- It's very obvious what kind of questions you're looking for. – voretaq7 Jan 12 '12 at 16:29
  • Even better, you knew what I meant, when I accidentally a word there. Fixed. – jcolebrand Jan 12 '12 at 16:45
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    You do realise of course that we can't get people to read our FAQ, let alone yours. :( – John Gardeniers Jan 12 '12 at 20:57
  • I know, but the ones who care to are the same, here and there, and are also the ones reading this page. I'm one of the ones who do and I generally pull the FAQs if I haven't read it in a week or so when deciding to migrate something. – jcolebrand Jan 12 '12 at 22:00
  • @jcolebrand: You get a million points just of taking part in this discussion. – pauska Jan 14 '12 at 1:08
  • @pauska being as how I'm the guy on the receiving end, I should be part of this discussion ;-) – jcolebrand Jan 14 '12 at 2:59

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