Timeline for Why is rudeness tolerated? [duplicate]
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| Jun 14 at 18:30 | history | edited | SlateStaffMod |
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| Oct 17, 2013 at 17:48 | comment | added | Aaron Copley | No, I just noticed it was deleted so I must have missed it. I was afraid given the timeline that I was the cause. Sorry, about your experience elsewhere on the site. | |
| Oct 17, 2013 at 14:58 | comment | added | Colyn1337 | I'm not going to comment on assumptions made by others. However I will say that the examples I'm handing over to SE do not involve me. @AaronCopley, I actually wanted to thank you, but I couldn't figure out a way to contact you. The discussion I had with you was positive and convinced me that what I suggested shouldn't be offered early. I hold the dialog as positive and in the best spirit that this site was intended. I don't think you have enough rep to see the final comment I left on that answer, unfortunately. | |
| Oct 17, 2013 at 14:01 | comment | added | Aaron Copley | Well, in that case.. I'll be showing myself out now. | |
| Oct 16, 2013 at 23:00 | comment | added | MDMarra | @AaronCopley more likely this one given the timeframe: serverfault.com/a/545514/10472 | |
| Oct 16, 2013 at 22:43 | comment | added | Aaron Copley |
Is all this over the "/etc/mtab" answer? (Deleted answer to this question.) I wasn't trying to be rude, but you wouldn't listen to reason and just kept providing some vague hypothetical as justification for a band-aid fix.
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| Oct 15, 2013 at 21:11 | comment | added | Matt Bear | Sometimes the truth isn't nice... And the right answer isn't the one you want. Especially if your in a community that expects a certain level of thought and effort to be put into a question. | |
| Oct 15, 2013 at 14:28 | comment | added | rtf | Nobody in chat is shy about calling someone out for being rude. They quite often ask if they were being too mean. Granted, you'll probably see people ripping on the user in the chat transcript, but definitely not on the main site. As for regulars not getting slapped: serverfault.com/users/118258/hopelessn00b He never came back after his suspension. And just recently this was brought up on meta: meta.serverfault.com/questions/5888/serial-close-voting as a direct reaction to what a regular in chat was doing. I'd say being a regular in chat makes you more likely to get called out. | |
| Oct 15, 2013 at 14:23 | comment | added | rtf | Considering your great lack of examples, I thought I'd collect some of the opposite: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=11219345#11219345 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=11509147#11509147 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=8020682#8020682 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=8703110#8703110 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=8726140#8726140 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=9635959#9635959 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=9859621#9859621 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=9918309#9918309 | |
| Oct 15, 2013 at 7:10 | comment | added | Rob Moir | I can't help thinking that making unsubstantiated claims and accusations is, ironically, somewhat rude in itself. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 23:14 | comment | added | Chris S Mod | @Colyn1337 Making claims like "If they were, I wouldn't see comments here..." is a logical fallacy. We certainly have a few members who like to play hop-scotch with "the line", but they're regularly banned, and only allowed back because the community allows it. If you see "rudeness" please Flag it. If you think the moderators aren't dealing with the offenders appropriately please feel free to contact the SE Staff. But I'll warn you they aren't receptive to people who haven't made real efforts through the provided mechanisms. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:59 | answer | added | TheCleaner | timeline score: 11 | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:59 | history | closed |
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Duplicate of Getting a bit too snarky | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:58 | history | edited | Mark HendersonMod |
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| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:56 | comment | added | Colyn1337 | I'll take it up with the stackexchange staff directly. Thank you all for your time and responses. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:53 | comment | added | MDMarra | @Colyn1337 There is a contact us link in the footer of every page on the site. It details how you can contact stack exchange employees directly. That said, it's unfortunate that you won't provide specific examples. That's like me walking into my HR department and telling them that an employee is harassing me, but I don't tell them any other details. How is the issue going to be resolved without you providing examples? It seems silly to complain if you're unwilling to discuss the actual issue(s) you're complaining about. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:48 | comment | added | Colyn1337 | @all - The responses I've read here have convinced me examples aren't necessary. If they were, I wouldn't see comments here attempting to justify the behavior I'm speaking out against. It also concerns me that this issue has been brought up in the past. This has also helped me to learn that some of those who violate the politeness rule are here on this thread. Before you close it, could you please advise who manages the moderators and how to contact that person. Thanks! | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:35 | comment | added | Mark Henderson Mod | Also, for what it's worth, hanging out in the chat room is no guarantee of leniency. Obviously we can't name names, but we've had to give a slap on the wrist or even suspensions to many high-rep users for any number of things over the years, even to those who hang out in chat. We don't like giving anyone a slap on the wrists or a suspension, but we do it when we need to. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:20 | comment | added | TheCleaner | Colyn, before you ask (even though I wasn't one to downvote it), downvotes here aren't the same as on the main site. It means they were disagreeing with your premise/post. You should really post examples, even if those examples are in regards to someone here in this "thread", otherwise you aren't going to really get anywhere. The high rep users have thick skins, they'll be alright if you cite them as the example you are referring to. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:20 | comment | added | voretaq7 Mod | @Colyn1337 Telling people to go and do some research (up to and including comments saying "This was the first result on Google!") is not "rude". If that's what you're referring to I'm afraid the general sentiment of the community is "Deal with it." We don't want the terminally lazy here. Beyond that there is no point in discussing this matter yet again without some specific examples. Please provide some or I will close this as a duplicate later this evening | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:15 | history | edited | TheCleaner |
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| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:10 | comment | added | Joel E Salas | @Colyn1337 ServerFault isn't quite like the other SE sites. We get a deluge of sorely underqualified questions and if we don't address/remove them immediately, we run the risk of alienating the actual professionals that come here. It's not a matter of turning the other cheek. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:09 | comment | added | MDMarra | These types of issues are incredibly difficult to address in the abstract. Please provide specific examples so that they can be addressed, lest this question begin to collect a mountain of downvotes. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:09 | comment | added | user9517 | Please provide examples; what I consider rude othr people certainly don't and vice versa. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:04 | comment | added | Colyn1337 | @MarkHenderson Surely you would agree that even that violates "Always be polite...". One can choose to remain silent and allow the question to go unanswered vs resorting to rudeness. As to the examples, I'm still considering that, I'm just not one of those "name names" type of people. | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 21:00 | comment | added | Mark Henderson Mod | I typically only see rudeness to people who have been rude first; such as people who put no effort into their question (not searching first, just dumping a whole log without explanation, typical "Do my job for me" questions) or by people who take offense to people telling them that they're way off track and doing it wrong. Can you provide some examples? | |
| Oct 14, 2013 at 20:58 | history | asked | Colyn1337 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |