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I just had a quick look at my profile and flag weight is no longer listed. All that's there is the number of "helpful" flags, which on it's own is pretty meaningless. While a given number might look good it's irrelevant if the same person has had twice that number declined.

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Image to illustrate that declines are not showing on my profile.

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I refer you to waffles answer over here:

Flag weight is now dead, you should decline flags that are not helpful and teach people how to flag in a helpful way.

Basically, people were not learning about bad flags because almost every single time a mod declined a flag, they would be berated by the person (ok, occasionally you'd get a request for constructive criticism, but they are few and far between), as the cost for a bad flag was massive compared the be reward for a good one.

I for one am glad to see it go, for the exact reason above. It wasn't worth the effort to decline a flag, because for someone like Iain, he had to flag 92 successful flags to undo one bad flag.

However, bad flags are also shown - in red in brackets.

  • Frankly, I'm glad they did. It was a useless stat. – Holocryptic Jan 23 '12 at 21:28
  • I don't mind that FW is gone. But 1. The effort to undo a "bad" flag was massively over weighted. 2. People usually got the most frustrated when mods had a relatively minor difference of opinion, declined the flag as unhelpful, didn't leave feedback (including when there wasn't a mechanism) and refused to respond when the users tried to have a public discussion about the matter. I feel that the mods who participate most in the site got the lion's share of the complains; while the "less active" mods were more likely to "blame". In any case, scorched earth does "fix" the symptom... – Chris S Jan 23 '12 at 21:31
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    I think that having some jeopardy was a good thing - will be interesting to see if a flagfest ensues. – Iain Jan 23 '12 at 22:13
  • I know on other sites, righteous indignation was the most frequent response to an 'unhelpful' flag. Kinda like a person who had a question closed and wants to know why THAT question was closed when three more JSUT LIKE IT are still open. One of those comes from an otherwise upstanding citizen (flagger) the other is usually pretty new (close-victim). A system that causes indignant whining by regulars is broken. – sysadmin1138 Jan 23 '12 at 22:39
  • Ok but I have had flags declined (with no complaint from me) and they're not showing on my profile page. – John Gardeniers Jan 23 '12 at 22:53
  • @JohnGardeniers - interesting. Maybe it's a mod-only thing? I can see two declined flags in red on your SF profile page – Mark Henderson Jan 23 '12 at 23:12
  • I can see my most recent f-up. They should be showing for you as well. – Chris S Jan 24 '12 at 0:09
  • See my edit.... – John Gardeniers Jan 24 '12 at 1:20
  • @JohnGardeniers - ... weird. Maybe ask over on meta.stackoverflow to see if they know why it's not showing up? (btw, that's a lot of profile views - you must be popular!) – Mark Henderson Jan 24 '12 at 1:30
  • @Mark, I'm not going over to MSO without a LOT more reason than that. As for the number of views, I've always thought it seems like an absurdly high number. It's not like I'm the most active, nor the most controversial, person on SF. I certainly don't believe it to be accurate. – John Gardeniers Jan 24 '12 at 1:37
  • @JohnGardeniers - I guess I can relate to your MSO hesitation. Only I very much doubt that anyone who knows the answer will see it here. – Mark Henderson Jan 24 '12 at 1:39
  • @JohnGardeniers: They only show helpful flags on your profile. Click on the number next to Helpful Flags you should see all of your flags and what happened to them. – Iain Jan 24 '12 at 9:23
  • Ok, that's it, Iain no longer has a perfect flag weight of 750, better cancel the moderator election! – Ward Jan 24 '12 at 20:05

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