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It's a downward spiral, at least for me. I used to be very active. I believe I averaged 30k rep per year for the last couple years, but my participation is essentially non-existent now. I've been thinking about this since I saw this post yesterday and wanted to share my story, as it may provide insight and lead to a solution down the road. I got busy in ...


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Why don't you an active member of Server Fault bother to vote on people's answers1? I guess it's this: I usually only view questions I personally care about, which by the time I wade through all the stuff that's not a favorite tag but shown to me anyway isn't too many. At this point I'm already pretty disengaged. I usually care about questions which I find ...


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One thing is certain: without an attendant increase in the close vote review limit, this would only result in the close review queue length increasing. Putting questions on hold is not a panacea for the quality of questions on this site, though it is a step in the right direction. We can also vote them down, and encourage good Q&A with upvotes and ...


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Warning: This is something of a though-stream, so... The visible symptom: Attracting and retaining people who can positively participate in the community, either both asking and answering questions, or at the least providing substantive answers on some kind of "regular" basis. This has been an ongoing issue for the site for a long time now. I'm really not ...


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I prefer that a relatively well worded but completely wrong answer remain but be downvoted so that future readers know that it is a Bad Thing. The more comments on the answer that explain why it's bad, the better. I only flag answers that are: Obviously shilling for a product. Completely unintelligible. "Me too!" Asking a question of the poster. And ...


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I will chime in & basically say I do not think this is an issue with the quality of posts & interactions here as much as the state of I.T. & developers in general nowadays. Seriously, I am far from the best says admin out there, but I have met developers & other admins out in the market nowadays who somehow have gigs yet their work is jaw ...


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I've made 682 votes so far this year, roughly about 4/day. However, I've trailed off considerably over the last 2 months, both in voting and in activity. For reference, I asked a similar style question here last year: Sure, we like the IDEA of voting, but we are poor in our actions as a follow up to: Is ServerFault doomed? Not if we all vote more! So to ...


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We could re-examine the list of things that we shut down as "not professional", and see whether there is a community of professionals who work with those subjects we could embrace. The datacenter is changing, and if we don't update our definitions, we'll find ourselves shrunk to obscurity.


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After reading all the answers thus far, and initially convincing myself that I had nothing to add, I noticed something that's missing from everyone's analysis thus far. Us. We are missing from our own analysis, particularly when it comes to the signal-to-noise ratio. The crap outnumbers the good stuff. And for sure, there is a problem of too much crap/...


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It is a feature. Upvote is approval. No vote neutral. Downvote is disapproval. This gives an overall sense of how the Server Fault community and the wider Stack Exchange users feel about a particular candidate.


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I think we are a little quick on the draw to close questions. I spend a lot of time looking at the close queue (I believe I am the 4th most prevalent close vote reviewer at the moment), and when I aggregate our collective requirements (as I observe, not as we intend), I get something like this: No abuse of terminology or use of incorrect or dated ...


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Law of Diminishing Returns I'm still a baby with SE and have been on the sites for around a year or so. I believe what is occurring is the law of diminishing returns. I believe as experience and wisdom is gained the older generation on SE begin to see the questions as "noob" or "amateur" rather than professional. The perspective is ever changing and the ...


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I've set the limit at 50 per day, making Server Fault consistent with other large sites on the network.


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Honestly, as much as more voting would be good, it's pretty easy to see why it doesn't happen - not enough incentivization, it's more difficult than it needs to be, and there's no way to grow the number of votes you get per day. To what John said, it's easier to downvote, because it's easier to spot idiocy than it is to recognize genius in an area outside ...


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Bumping this. Given recent events it's possible we need this now more than ever. I've burned through 20 in an hour today alone, and our close queue is steadily increasing. I'm in favor of an immediate increase in close votes, and also a tiered approach based on how close votes are being used. 500 is a lot of closed votes, If we get bumped up to 50 close ...


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Although I think more voting (up and down) would be a good thing, I don't think it should be done to make SF "warmer" and more welcoming. I think one reason for low voting is that professional sysadmins usually don't have time and money to do everything, so we prioritize quickly and harshly. When people see a question that's not bad enough to downvote, but ...


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We really do need more people to be active within our community and the only way we can realistically do this is to vote more so they level up and use their privileges. Some time ago I asked the team for some stats on our Close->Off Topic voting. In the 3 months to June 2012 we cast 3524 OT votes closing 821 questions. 11 people voted >100 times casting ...


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This comes in with the Established User Privilege at 1000 rep.


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I should also note that as of right now, 1643 eligible voters have visited the site during the current election, 282 more than visited during the entire course of the previous election... However, a whopping 1137 have visited the election page, which is 663 more than showed up last time around. So there are more potential voters hanging around and more of ...


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Speaking only for myself: I got really busy at work. I think that's just something that's going to happen to everyone from time to time. I also find that unless I spend a certain amount of time on the site, someone else answers the questions I would have answered first. (HopelessN00b, I'm lookin' at you, ha ha.) Anyway. As things calm down I'll try ...


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I know you're not talking about me, because even though I've been busy/distracted/absent much of the past two months, I'm still #1 for the year. There've been previous questions about this but not focussing on answers. My thoughts (on why it's EASY to vote and most of you are doing it wrong!) Up and down voting on answers mean: this answer is or isn't ...


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There's a bug with some localization code - a fix is going out right now. Also, your vote was properly recorded; the bug only affected any optional display message that might have been sent back to the client.


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They don't release the exact numbers, but the Serial Vote detector is a pretty simple algorithm. More than several votes (down seem to be weighted more than up, but I'm not sure) in a few days period triggers the reversal. In you case, with so many being reversed yesterday I believe even a single vote today would be reversed again tonight.


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I was just looking at a random sampling of some of your 0 score questions and, honestly, I'd be tempted to downvote a few of them, or even cast close votes. The hover-text for the upvote arrow says "This question shows research effort; it is useful and clear." We tend to upvote well thought-out and thoroughly detailed questions. It seems that some of your ...


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Heres my frank answer(s). I'm not by any stretch suggesting these are reasonable answers. But, thats how content consumption goes on the internet. Questions I've seen so many of the same question (or thereabouts, or it doesn't interest me). I see a question that has potential but I want it to 'fill out' a bit more before I upvote it. Then promptly forget ...


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I voted! I voted 565 times and counting this year. That's what, 4 times a day? It's close to your (arbitrary, I think and mean without offense?) threshold of 5. I recently introduced a coworker of mine to stack overflow's voting system by cajoling them into answering a couple questions, seeing that they got enough rep to upvote, and then compelling them ...


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If you think a question is good enough to deserve an answer and you take the time to provide one, why don't you vote it up? Just because I post an answer doesn't mean I think the questions is necessarily any good. The two do not go hand in hand. I downvote questions more often than I upvote them and the reason is pretty simple. You don't have to know much ...


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I'm an enthusiast for answering questions - I like to be able to contribute to the 'wisdom of the internet' in a positive way. I've answered a few questions on ServerFault, but not as many as I'd have liked. Aside from poor initial questions, the other reason I trip up is because some questions are extremely specific. That's an artifact of the target ...


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I think SF is too heavy handed on the closes and non-professional complaints. Closing a question because the OS happened to be XP? Yeah, it's not a server OS, and if given a choice I wouldn't run it. But the business side of things rarely gives you such a choice. Hell, we just managed to kill our XP server yesterday. Making an active user justify a ...


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I have some ideas but you are not going to like them... Please see my bit of amateur anthropology to get an idea of the framework I'm going to construct this around. I really believe that many of this site's issues discussed on Meta are really the byproduct of the lack of consensus between the ServerFault community and the StackOverflow community about the ...


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