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One thing is certain: without an attendant increase in the close vote review limit, this would only result in the close review queue length increasing. Putting questions on hold is not a panacea for the quality of questions on this site, though it is a step in the right direction. We can also vote them down, and encourage good Q&A with upvotes and ...


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As the alleged Serial Close-voter, I will state this: The user in question has a history of posting astonishingly lazy, zero-research questions and asking (and perhaps shading into expecting) us to do their work for them. It was believed by some that I was blindly dropping close votes on all of that user's questions, which is not the case. In fact, those ...


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You should still vote to close. Other people's votes are not your responsibility. All you can do is vote correctly. Certainly, disagreeing with a close vote isn't a valid reason to flag, for example.


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You can flag it for moderator attention. A moderator can then deal with the bounty and close the question.


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(cough noob cough) Oh, that jerk... yeah, he sucks. But, at the same time, 50 close votes a day... use 'em or lose 'em. If they age out, they can be re-cast, so worst case, "losing" a close vote to aging is really no different than losing it to not spending before the end of the UTC day. And to be fair, with over 800 open questions with the string "...


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Erm, it's not empty and they 'grey out' the button if you remove all the text. I guess it's an attempt to get people to leave a constructive comment but as ever 'pink and fuffyness' prevails and you're not forced to do so. To be honest I frequently find it difficult not to s/about/a steaming pile of shit./ but whilst it would go down well with the ...


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From my reading of his question I did not see any reference to "home" or "developer" or any of the other hot-button close justifications. What I saw was someone inexperienced in Apache asking a legitimate beginner question. Yes, what he was asking probably could have been found in documentation, but the question that I read was reasonably well put-together. ...


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Currently, three Leave Open votes take a question out of the close queue and begin the aging of the existing close votes, if it had not already begun by the question receiving 100 views. When aging begins, close votes expire four days later. This question received its three Leave Open votes and will remain open unless two other people go far out of their ...


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I've set the limit at 50 per day, making Server Fault consistent with other large sites on the network.


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I think that School #2 is wrong. The close reason is called "Off Topic" and it is not called "More on topic somewhere else" or "Maybe off topic". System administration is a very expansive field and it benefits the site to be inclusive. Because of the breadth of system administration, if you don't recognize it as being on topic it doesn't mean it is off ...


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If the only reason for closing the question is "Because it was asked by $USER", this is a bad thing. I certainly hope nobody is going through a user's profile putting close votes on all their questions just because they were asked by that particular user - that would be grounds for a "review queue time-out". On the flip side, if the questions do not meet ...


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Bumping this. Given recent events it's possible we need this now more than ever. I've burned through 20 in an hour today alone, and our close queue is steadily increasing. I'm in favor of an immediate increase in close votes, and also a tiered approach based on how close votes are being used. 500 is a lot of closed votes, If we get bumped up to 50 close ...


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There's a difference between "I don't know what happened but a reboot fixed it" and "A reboot is needed because reasons". The later is useful, for those unaware that a reboot is necessary. Consider upgrading some drivers in Windows "Why my device doesn't work as I expected?", which is an expected issue if you didn't restart the system. Basically, it wasn't a ...


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Validation for this case added in build 2013.7.19.1249 (meta), 2013.7.19.874 (sites)


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As Iain points out, Mods can hammer the Question as they see fit. If the pair of 2s were Migrate, but to different sites, then it will be closed Off-Topic. Otherwise the first vote out of all five will be the close reason.


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Yes we should however there are currently several things which work against this People don't always read the question correctly before making a decision - everyone needs to be more careful. The UI for /review/close doesn't show any answers that a question may have, although it does mention their existence en passant. Effectively, once something is in the ...


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If a question is relevant to systems/network administration, it is on topic, even if it is also a generic question about a particular platform or technology. The litmus test I've started using from the various sites I've been on this: Does the question get love? Are people providing or likely to provide answers to this question on this site? Will the ...


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First off, note that the limit automatically increases if the backlog gets really big. It's more or less permanently 40/day on Stack Overflow simply because thousands get added every day. But 20 reviews per day, every day, is a lot of reviews. Very few people have that kind of stamina. Yes, it's tempting to sit down and do 40, 50, 500/day when you're ...


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Nope! The SE robot does a few things with these. Questions with no upvoted answers are bumped to the front page in pairs at random. I believe two questions are picked every four hours. This is intended, in case anyone happens to have an answer. I believe there is a cleanup process that deletes these after a time if the question also has a non-positive ...


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He might be a home user, but more likely he's a developer, setting up a development environment. While "anything in a home or development environment" is not on topic here, the pre-filled close reason only mentions a home environment. Changes to the pre-filled close reasons are currently being proposed; perhaps this detail should be added.


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I voted to leave the question open when I saw it in the queue, because I thought it was reasonable for various reasons that boil down to what you said at the beginning. It is, of course, subject area which I'm not familiar with really at all. That said, I don't think the process is broken on the whole. Certainly it's possible for five people voting the ...


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There's no UI provided to us Moderators now have the capability to rearrange the close reasons. But we can't edit them; to change one, it has to be deactivated and a completely new one activated. Personally I think that the most frequently used reasons should be listed near the top. And I have taken the opportunity, when installing a new close reason, to ...


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Before the close reason reform, No, it's always been like that. (At least, I'm sure it happened to me before the new close vote reasons were implemented.) It makes some sense... you have reviews left, so you could pick "Leave Open."


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In most cases, I prefer #1 - if it's relevant, it's probably on-topic. I primarily vote that way, although I'm sure there are exceptions. I certainly don't vote to migrate very often.


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I use NARQ whenever I see a question that falls into "overly broad". I need to figure out what kind of server I need for an office of ten architects. I tend to trot out NC for questions that are prominently subjective; such as those that involve the word 'best' in them, since 'best' is very subjective. What is the best software configuration for an ...


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I have seen, and voted on, quite a few questions that are and indeed should be closed as NARQ, despite having answers. I can't see why it having answers should make any difference. For the particular question you linked I admit I don't see why it was closed as NARQ but the fact that it does have an answer still makes no difference. I think you're forgetting ...


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In reality the system should check if the comment is just the lead-in text and reject it (HEY DEVELOPERS!!! -- at least a front-end JS check?). The fact that it doesn't is certainly a bug in my mind. Unfortunately as regards the overall implementation, there are three equally bad choices: Pre-populate some generic lead-in text This encourages you to be ...


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I think it's very worth noting that the "good" answer to your example question got a single comment basically saying "I already did that", with no further elaboration. Presumably the asker is expecting a diagnostic back-and-forth, making this indeed "not a real question" and better suited for chat. Often in the case of vague questions, people make guesses ...


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If you really want to close something in the queue, you can click through to the Question and close it there. I know this isn't a good answer, since it's a pain, but it's what I plan on doing when I get to 12345 reviews. I kinda - but not too much - object to people getting more reviews, they should have to get up to 10,000+ the old-fashioned, 20-at-a-time ...


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One of the reviewers who voted to close has often seemed (to me) to be something of a robo-reviewer, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for an explanation from them. It has a couple of "leave open" votes, but I've been clear on what those do. Since a mod is looking at this meta question, maybe it could just be hammered open? request a mandatory ...


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